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I do blame alot of the fans including myself to some extent, we don't create the atmosphere of old that made St James' a fortress and people are constantly protesting and were even booing the team. We need sod all this crap and back the team. It's 2 way thing though - if fans see the players can't be bothered why should they put the effort in. Why are the fans held responsible whenever anything goes wrong at Newcastle. As far as I am concerned, it all comes down to bad decision making by Ashley & co. We've got decent players - better than our relegation rivals. A decent manager would have them in the top half of the table. Yes this is fair enough, with a decent manager we would be half way up the table, we don't have one, the players don't decide this. Adding pressure to them will only make things worse, people can say whatever the like about Ashley but just support the team, we give ourselves a rep as fairweather support, i.e. we only have a good atmosphere when we are doing well. We outsang Liverpool when we were 5-1 down. we didn't at 0-1,1-2 and 1-3 though perhaps when the players needed it most. Have to disagree here. We outsang them the whole game. No disrespect intended, but I wouldn't mind trading great support for having the worst fans in the world and actually winning.

Given that it's still pretty unlikely he even is gay, I'm surprised at the serious tone of that post At this point, do you honestly think that anything bad that could potentially happen to this club won't?

I sincerely hope that it isn't actually the case that he's not been getting games because he's gay. We've been dragged through every possible indignity a football club can suffer save relegation (coming soon!) Would be just like us to add a discrimination scandal to that list.

Habib Beye will not let us get relegated. He'll drag us up with his bare hands if he has to.

I'll be honest. If we go down and keep Kinnear, I think I might... No, never mind. I'll still be watching, masochistic bastard that I am.

Why, did he just announce his retirement?

I'll tell you what though...if we do get relegated, that'll be it for this f***ing place. Dead. I hope the admin hold off on committing any further money on new servers, because we won't need it. You wait and see if I'm wrong. This place will be quieter than HTL's old board. NE5/Mick/Ozzie would probably stay. We'd need new servers just for them.

The irrational part of my brain actually wants a European Super League. Get the Sky four and their good for nothing fans to fuck off to their own league so we don't have to deal with them and I don't have to stress over eight unwinnable games every year. The rational part then comes in to remind me that with a European Super League, the Premiership would quickly become the new Championship and NUFC would be royally fucked. Oh well.

How the fuck are we going to get ourselves out of it this time. Things are really looking bleak. Even if we win on Saturday we're still right in the thick of it and have two unwinnable matches coming up.

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. We're really going down this time aren't we?

He's alright. Great attitude, crazy engine, brilliant at breaking up play. Can't pass. Wouldn't have minded him here on a free. Hopefully he'll push Cattermole out of the team so we never have to see the fucker ever again.

you're joking? I dont remember that. I DO remember Oliver saying Sven wanted him in the England team though :lol: http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19157&p=440509 PS - worst laughing smiley ever. the smiley is modeled on Lee Dixon I would absolutely love it if I could find the full article for that rumor somewhere. Would be a great laugh.

If calling the stadium Adidas park or whatever means we won't have to sell Bassong to make ends meet, I'm all for it.

fuck. That's him gone then I suppose

Can't believe this lad is the same age I am

Would be nicer if it was a Premiership fixture

Nah. JFK may be an idiot, but he's not a bigot. He dropped Taylor for Bassong, Duff for Insomnia, and to be fair when he was slagging off Enrique, the way he was playing Jose pretty much deserved everything he was getting. Kinnear simply didn't have the brains to consider that he was still young and brimming with potential. To take simple ineptitude and twist it into some sort of massive conspiracy to excise all "continental" style form our team is a bit of stretch, to say the least.

Very debatable iyam. I don't want to fall into the Owen vs Martins argument again, but you only have to look at our record without Oba to see that he's more influential on the pitch. He mightn't score as many goals, but in a 4-4-2, Owen's invisible unless he's poaching goals. In terms of adding to the team's play, i'd say Martins does more 'damage'. But as has been said, i'd rather just have em both in the side. In defence of Owen imho a midfield who can create openings would be a massive plus from open play. We don't have one, which is why I'd rather have Martins who can do shit from out of nowhere.

I suppose you'd know better than I do, but personally I'd be shocked if the best defender in the world right now was anyone other than Vidic.

26-12-2008 English Premier Stoke 0-1 Man Utd 29-12-2008 English Premier Man Utd 1-0 Middlesbro 04-01-2009 English FA Cup Southampton 0-3 Man Utd 07-01-2009 English League Cup Derby 1-0 Man Utd 11-01-2009 English Premier Man Utd 3-0 Chelsea 14-01-2009 English Premier Man Utd 1-0 Wigan 17-01-2009 English Premier Bolton 0-1 Man Utd 24-01-2009 English FA Cup Man Utd 2-1 Tottenham No offense, but I suspect you suspect wrong. You said "Vidic" when you meant "Ferdinand" by the way. HTT is spot on here to be honest, those results mean very little Eight clean sheets while partnered alternately by Jonny Evans and John O'Shea means "very little?" What part of his post did you find spot on? I'd rather base my claims on reality rather than some theory I made up in my head that sounds good.

26-12-2008 English Premier Stoke 0-1 Man Utd 29-12-2008 English Premier Man Utd 1-0 Middlesbro 04-01-2009 English FA Cup Southampton 0-3 Man Utd 07-01-2009 English League Cup Derby 1-0 Man Utd 11-01-2009 English Premier Man Utd 3-0 Chelsea 14-01-2009 English Premier Man Utd 1-0 Wigan 17-01-2009 English Premier Bolton 0-1 Man Utd 24-01-2009 English FA Cup Man Utd 2-1 Tottenham No offense, but I suspect you suspect wrong. You said "Vidic" when you meant "Ferdinand" by the way.

Laws of the universe. We must do everything wrong. Therefore Carroll must be given a 5-year contract and we'll let Bassong go to Portsmouth in the summer for 3m.

It's all down to the managerial appointment imo. If Kinnear is indeed offered a three-year contract, we're done as a Premiership football club one way or another because 1. Joe Kinnear is our manager and 2. That tells you all you need to know about Mike Ashley's intentions.

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This. I'd love to see Geremi be used until Nolan and Barton are fit, along side Guthrie we'd have a decent little midfield. From the snippets I saw and heard about last night it appears Geremi played well. Well, Hull is Nolan's last game out so I suppose we'd get to see that midfield for the grand total of one game. In all seriousness, I don't see Geremi as being a decent little anything, and thought he had a poor game on Wednesday. Him, Butt, and Smith are all horrible in their own ways. Hopefully Guthrie/Nolan/Barton will stay fit/not suspended for the rest of the year so we never have to see any of them again.