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If Owen is fit, he will be a major help to us. Can score goals, and that's something we could always use. I hate him. If we are relying on Owen to keep us up then we will definitely be relegated. He's our top scorer at the moment and before tonight had scored about 1/3 of our league goals. I for one will be glad when he's back to be honest. He's also a want away who couldn't care less about what happens to this club as he'll be happily off in the summer. Started to be a complete passenger for a while before his injury. Obviously no longer gives a shit. I wouldn't drop Lovenkrands or Martins for him.

He wasn't just our best midfield player today, he was arguably our only midfield player. Worse than Milner my ass.

I refuse to put a number on it, but I've been thinking that we're more likely than not to go down since the Bolton match. If we fail to beat Hull, I think it's pretty nailed on.

oh Jesus no. That could be the result that sends us down.

Agree with all of that. Also thought Bassong, barring a couple of mistakes (not marking Vidic on that corner and messing up in front of Ronaldo) looked good, as usual. Martins was disappointing imo, we need a lot more from him, and need him to be sharper. Love was actually pretty good as well. Whilst Martins wasn't that great, his mere presence on the pitch proved what a difference to the side he makes. Them counter-attacks in the first half wouldn't have been achieved without him in the side - regardless of whether or not he even touched the ball. Defenses have to drop back when he's playing. Martins has just been a fast Shola for the past two games. We need him to get back up to match sharpness quick or we're pretty fucked.

Chelsea - no Liverpool - no better than Kuyt Arsenal - no Liverpool would have him in a shot. Have you seen what they're forced to play out wide these days? Arsenal would certainly rather have him on the wing than Eboue, but he's not a Wenger style player so perhaps not. As for Chelsea, do you know who their manager is?

It's a horrible cliche but Hull is literally a "must win" now. If we don't get three points from that, we're done.

Would be a nailed on starter for every team in the Prem except for the one he's at right now.

Deserved better than to go down to a howler like that. It was a good performance but in some ways it hurts more than the 6-1.

Kazenga looks like a mini-oba on TV.

By Smith's stanrdards that was a brilliant performance. By any normal standards that was a shitshow.

O'Shea: "It's a f***ing foul!"

Hopefully we're taking off Smith.

Carroll on for Raylor, makes sense I suppose. Just can't see Andy Carroll scoring against Man United though.

Barely had any of the ball for teh past 10 minutes. Look like we're finally out of gas.

There's more of a chance of Smith scoring a hat trick and us winning 4-1 than Kazenga coming on.

That was fucking Shola-esque from Martins.

fucking disgrace to play so well and concede to idiocy like that. Raylor having a right shocker today.

PARK YOU FUCKING DOG-EATING CUNT. Ruined my fucking day.

FUCK THAT. ARGH. IDIOTS>

Raylor's delivery turning into Milner. Meanwhile, at Villa, Milner can now cross.

I wouldn't want to bang my head into Vidic's. He's got a skull like a hammer.

We're going to be fucked when Oba/Jonas tire. Just hope we hold out somehow.

He really must love Man United

Steve Bennett body checks Raylor Would've been furious if that went in.