Kaizero

are you a rosenborg fan? They're my Norwegian team, yeah. Go to most of their matches so can't really help it.

I hate Denmark. Absolutely loathe that country and its people speaking with potatoes shoved down their fucking throaths. Also hate fucking ex-pats who can't do nothing but talk shit about their own country.

Mourinho agrees re: Capello being a shit manager option for England.

He can fuck off asking for £60k.

On another note, fuck me you English are in the shit with your current manager crop. I didn't think it was this bad, but fuck me. Obvious choice as England manager would be Roy Hodgson. Fuck Redknapp. There's nothing behind those two, though. Doesn't look like Hodgson will be able to ever become England manager now he'll ruin his reputation in England with the cursed Liverpool job, not to mention his age after the 2012 EC. Should've really just replaced Capello with Hodgson after the WC imo tbh.

At least we've beaten modern Germany. So have England.... Either way Norway are shite. I forgot that 2008 friendly in my hurry to get out a dig at your WC exit, my bad. And yeah we are, but we'll still rape Denmark.

Sven, Sir Bobby. It's not impossible at all if you're the right mixture of a manager. Though obviously you get sacked if you don't win the WC as the English media is delusional, but still. You have the potential to do well, you just need someone that could make you reach that potential by making the players believe they can reach it, rather than say "follow this gameplan and we'll win", which is the type of manager Capello is. It works well on club level, as you have your assistants to do the human connection between yourself and the players over time, but on International level you need to do the interaction and motivation yourself. Not your assistants, not David Beckham, yourself. As you only have the players for a short period of time and they need to believe in you and themselves.

At least we've beaten modern Germany.

Change of managers changed it all, went from shit Hareide to Drillo, which is the epitome of what I think an International manager should be. Great tactically (i.e. playing with the right tactic almost anybody can beat anybody philosophy) and a great player motivator. Anyways, we've sidetracked. The main discussion was that Capello is a shit International manager, which he is.

Norway would have finished 4th in that group Kaiz, you're s****. Not a snowball's chance in hell we'd have finished lower than those versions of Ukraine and Croatia. Who's the third team btw? Belarus? Are you mad? Croatia and Ukraine are both better than Norway. When was the last major tournament you qualified for? Belarus was just a dig, but you would have finished 3rd. 2000, but that's not the point. The point is recent form, and if we faced off against those two I'd have full belief we'd be able to win. We've been shit for the better part of a decade, granted, but since 2008 we've taken massive steps and I have no doubt we'll be at the 2012 EC. FIFA agrees re: Ukraine btw, not that they matter, but still. 22 Norway 878 0 Equal 23 Ghana 874 0 Equal 24 Ukraine 870 1 Up

Norway would have finished 4th in that group Kaiz, you're shite. Not a snowball's chance in hell we'd have finished lower than those versions of Ukraine and Croatia. Or well, maybe Croatia. They play good stuff on their day, not a patch on their form up until late 08, though. Who's the third team btw? Belarus? Are you mad?

Your qualifying group was fucking easy, mind. It's almost shameful it wasn't 10 out of 10 no matter who the manager was. Hell, if England was replaced with Norway I'd be expecting US to fucking win that group, and we're fucking shitter than shit.

I've always thought Capello would make a shit International manager. He's proven me right so far. The English team needs a motivator and tactician in one, not just one or the other as you can't go the distance with just motivation and you spend too little time with the players to just be a great tactician. Capello is just a tactician, he's never been good at player interaction and usually have let his assistants deal with the players on a day to day basis bar match day. (Naturally I can't know that 100%, but I've based my opinion on different interviews with former players, other news articles and so on over time.) Granted, I can't think of any better options that are English for the role. But still. Not the best appointment in the first place. Though with all that said, he's a fantastic club manager. Absolutely class, just not an International manager IMO. England need to take the risk of appointing a young, up and coming hungry manager. Be it foreign or non-foreign, and then do a Germany and re-do everything from the roots and up.

I'm a right bully, making you cry.

Since when is his third appereance a debut? Isn't it obvious I meant Carling Cup debut? I meant first START, my bad. Already debuted in the Carling Cup for Man Utd. I know what you mean.

Since when is his third appereance a debut?

Do you mean we have to call Japan Nippon, or the real shit 日本国? Or Saudi Arabia? Al Mamlakah al Arabiyah as Suudiyah, ¨المملكة العربيّة السّعوديّة If you mean the last one i can no longer go outside Europe, as i don`t know where the fuck i am going You'd call it Nippon as that would be how its pronounced. Countries would offer their name of country as they want it in all alphabets so it would be pronounced the same way no matter which alphabet it was in. As Al Mamlakah al Arabiyah as Suudiyah then? Or call China Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó? Lets go to Dawlat al-Imārāt al-‘Arabīyah al-Muttaḥidah, its United arab Emirated. Pretty stupid tbf. They call themselves a short version as well, Al Emarat, which isn't that hard for anyone to say. Do you call China "The People's Republic of China" or Saudi Arabia "Kingdom of Saudi Arabia" as well? No? Most nations have shortened names as well as the long official one, I for one don't call Norway "The Kingdom of Norway", but that's our official name. Still, most Norwegians call our country "Norge", no? Not "Kongeriket Norge"? Now, it's not something that could be enforced given just how nudged into our minds the country names are in the languages we know. But not knowing we called China for China, I'd be more than happy to have called them Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó if that's what they were known as. Also, I'd imagine that if any such thing were actually enforced, which sadly it won't be, most nations would have a short version of whatever long name they might have that they would be happy with foreigners calling their nation. All that said, I never said it should be enforced, because that would be impossible and obviously stupid. I'm just saying I'd prefer it if that were the way things had been done rather than "translating" names in the first place. Most of this is not relevant. What we discussed was if we should call it the original name or the international name. Ok, Dawlat al-Imārāt al-‘Arabīyah al-Muttaḥidah call themselfs Al Emarat, but the rest of us call them United Arab Emirates,or more spesificly Dubay, Abu Dhabi etc. When UAE people are doing business they call it United Arab Emirates. Its the common name for it. My point is that these names are well reknown in the english speaking world. No one call it The People's Republic of China, where do you get the idea i do that? I dont know what the fuck Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó mean, if its their name for The People's Republic of China, how should i know? Whats the short name for that ? Everyone calls it China, everyone know where it is. Are you annoyed that people here say Norway instead of Norge? I dont give a shit, its the same country, it changes nothing. Im not sure, but this seems like a waste of time, why change something that work, and have done for centuries. Mods, please move this where ever you want, its nothing to do with our new best friend Cheick Tioté =) I said it wouldn't be viable to change it, just that I thought it should have been that way from the start. And my point was that the names you had come with were the full names of the countries, not the name used among the common people as "what they call themselves", hence attempting to make fun of my outlandish proposal with something I did not suggest we'd call the countries. And no, I've been too exposed to English for too long to react to Norway. I'm more than mildly miffed at Noruega and similar shit, mind. Which in turn is my original point, most people tend to be annoyed at their country being translated hence why I thought things should have been different from the get go, as as I've said, it's nothing one can do with it now.

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SERENITY NOW

Bit late now, but yeah, they are/were. Just hoping they notch another one for my -2 to come in.

Do you mean we have to call Japan Nippon, or the real shit 日本国? Or Saudi Arabia? Al Mamlakah al Arabiyah as Suudiyah, ¨المملكة العربيّة السّعوديّة If you mean the last one i can no longer go outside Europe, as i don`t know where the fuck i am going You'd call it Nippon as that would be how its pronounced. Countries would offer their name of country as they want it in all alphabets so it would be pronounced the same way no matter which alphabet it was in. As Al Mamlakah al Arabiyah as Suudiyah then? Or call China Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó? Lets go to Dawlat al-Imārāt al-‘Arabīyah al-Muttaḥidah, its United arab Emirated. Pretty stupid tbf. They call themselves a short version as well, Al Emarat, which isn't that hard for anyone to say. Do you call China "The People's Republic of China" or Saudi Arabia "Kingdom of Saudi Arabia" as well? No? Most nations have shortened names as well as the long official one, I for one don't call Norway "The Kingdom of Norway", but that's our official name. Still, most Norwegians call our country "Norge", no? Not "Kongeriket Norge"? Now, it's not something that could be enforced given just how nudged into our minds the country names are in the languages we know. But not knowing we called China for China, I'd be more than happy to have called them Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó if that's what they were known as. Also, I'd imagine that if any such thing were actually enforced, which sadly it won't be, most nations would have a short version of whatever long name they might have that they would be happy with foreigners calling their nation. All that said, I never said it should be enforced, because that would be impossible and obviously stupid. I'm just saying I'd prefer it if that were the way things had been done rather than "translating" names in the first place.

I think every nation should be known Internationally by what the nation calls itself tbh.

Winner, spat my fanta out.

Xisco had an assist.