Gallowgate Toon

was the opposite if anything, played far too conservatively and never had a go himself, instead always opting for the safe pass or slowed down to keep possession. very disappointing in either case though. contrast with cisse who ran at people, stretched our defence, took risks and fired shots from long distance. You're pulling me up on my supposition of what Martins was thinking? Ok, fair enough i'd agree with your assessment anyway. Dont think he was close enough to Shola to support him when the ball was played long anyway. Cisse got the better of our defenders on a few occasions but our defence played ok in nightmare conditions for a defender. I was hoping Martins would have exploited the scrappy balls that were played up to Shola a bit more but he seemed switched off today. Probably sick of chasing the scraps tbh, we all know what he can do when the ball is at his feet, but we just don't ever play it to his feet, we expect him to feed off scraps that are 20 or 30 yards from him, he's quick but not superman.

seriously? Cisse was comfortably the best player on the pitch and our central defenders never got to grips with him. also thought diouf, malbranque and chimbonda were dangerous too, capitalising on our ineptness at full-back & central midfield. No, Taylor didn't deal with Cisse, that's why he got the goal, Colo was class today 95% of people on here are saying exactly the same he read the game well well, headed well, tackled well apart from one time how did Cisse 'beat' him? cisse skinned colo for pace on at least 3 occasions. he made some good challenges but he couldn't even get close to cisse when he moved out wide or dropped deep and as a result he enjoyed a lot of space and fired in some good chances that he was unlucky not to put away. also notice colo didn't put a foot in when diouf was running through. The times he got round Colo, he was well positioned enough for Cisse to not create anything other than shit crosses and early pot shots? he was never going to beat Cisse in a race but he was clever enough to shut his options down. As for Diouf there was enough players in there to block that shot and i'm pretty sure if Colo had left Jones, then Diouf would have slid it through to him, its a midfielders job to block a midfielders shot tbh not a CB come forward and leave his man.

seriously? Cisse was comfortably the best player on the pitch and our central defenders never got to grips with him. also thought diouf, malbranque and chimbonda were dangerous too, capitalising on our ineptness at full-back & central midfield. No, Taylor didn't deal with Cisse, that's why he got the goal, Colo was class today 95% of people on here are saying exactly the same he read the game well well, headed well, tackled well apart from one time how did Cisse 'beat' him?

They strengthened we didn't. Which was his point... Seemed like he was implying they had same team. Typical Cisse has a good game. Cisse has been good for them tbh and is a good player just Liverpool's rotation policy screwed him up imo.

On the second goal actually, i wonder what the wall was doing, he was too close in surely to try and curl it over, thought it was poor positioning but a great strike.

Everyone but Colo and Given get 5's from me, Given gets a 6 could have easily saved the second mind and Colo gets a 7.5, thought he had Cisse all over today, and was very good against Jones.

Harsh on Martins, i sympathise with him getting frustrated, i mean all he had to feed off were scraps, and when he finally got the ball at his feet, he was so frustaraed all composure went out the window. Cisse had lots of nice passes played to him throughout the whole game, and good crosses, Martins had precisely nothing. The tactics are what are really at fault today.

f*** sake. Agreed thought he was our best player today, apart from the wind picking the ball up he was brilliant i thought.

I still think Kinnear is doing a decent job, but he comes out and says he wants the job full time, well yeah but you've actually got to show you do the job, and today he looked tactically shit tbh, no creativity, just long ball after long ball to a donkey and a 5'7 striker. He made the subs 15 minutes too late, should've taken Butt off at half time too. Yeah he won the ball but he was injured so he didn't track Marlbranque for the first goal and got caught out with his foul for the second, i know he has experience but he's shit and i think Guthrie's performance suffered because of him, practically like playing with 10 men, unbelievable.

What did he honestly think we were guna do? For 10 minutes we couldn't string more than 2 passes together and they were running through us with ease, all we were doing was hopelessly punting up the fucking ball to Shola who won 2 headers all game. He could see we weren't goin to do anything i'm sure Jonas and Barton have trained enough to manage 30 minutes of football.

Honestly JK has a lot to answer for today, i'm not fuming with the performance but his ineptitude at the subs, he let us soak up 10 mins of pressure playing a crocked ginger twat and Geremi, Roy fucking Keane got it right, 60 minutes make a change, fuck's sake anyone could've seen that he should have made the changes fucking 75 minutes in.

This is why Jk should never be our main manager, shocking timing of subs there.

he's made the changes too late today, poor.

Joe should have made the change ten minutes ago ffs, seriously our tactics today have been shit.

make the change ffs

do we have any tactics or what?

Thing is for Poll, if this card gets rescinded, and he's still stuck to his guns and went on about how it was a pen, he's going to look like a pillock.

Too lightweight, Geremi breathed on him and he got knocked off the ball. One of the best players you'll ever see technique wise though.

Possibly the worst conditions you could ever judge a defender on tbh, confidence is so low atm and he's brand new too, i still think it's harsh to judge him.

The players just need some direction, they obviously have no knowledge of how to unlock a 5 man midfield.

Too late for that s***. The club is in freefall. It's amazing considering how we started the season. Kev and Ashley and their egos eh? Bastards. I'm not even that annoyed with Ashley tbh for some reason i'm just really pissed off at KK.

Good from Colo there.

He'll learn not to do that when he settles in.

Don't see the point in risking further damage by playing Martins and Beye in a CC match. Might aswell get them proper for the league, which is what really matters tbh. Bring them on at half time, play Nacho, why not risk him for this one, got nothing to lose tbh.

Bit harsh on Colo, apart from getting done for the goal, he had a pretty decent game. But for him and Taylor, they're practically covering 4 positions between them. Zoggy is usually somewhere else, so Colo has to pick up all the pieces with him. Edgar might as well not be there, so Tayls has to cover him, plus they've got their own positions to cover. Defending is about confidence, if you don't have the belief you'll make a mistake. With the current situation, its even worse, because the whole team is demoralised too. So i can sympathise with Colo a bit, he's obviously got a lot of pressure on him, so i can forgive his lack of concentration at times, plus he's trying to adjust, and its probably the hardest position to adjust to as well.