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MORE than just an internet forum, surely. Anyway - just a thought!!!

It is only an internet rumour though, there is nothing out in the media so nothing to deny. Yes, but it is ALL OVER the Internet though. Just thought there might be something in the 'non-denial' theory!

OK, let's move on from 'Press Conferences'! A thought has just occurred to me, that 'may' point towards the current speculation about the DIC and Tuesday being possibly correct. It is noticeable that, ever since all this talk started . . . NO ONE has issued any kind of denial. Could that mean there is some real truth in it - what do you think?

I've discovered "smilies" (it seems)

Could be . . a difficult one . . . er . . . "because we aren't really a Championship Club" . . . ? ? ? nah. i've seen this seasons fixtures and we are. ok then

No. No - Tuesday

Could be . . a difficult one . . . er . . . "because we aren't really a Championship Club" . . . ? ? ?

Know how you feel!! BUT, I have a feeling that this time it is different . . .

Obi on toontalk is a reliable source.

Sir Bobby loved our great club, he loved it with the same passion that us on here do. He will be watching us and the club and everyone else, from now on. I hope he likes what he sees. I think that the world is a FAR poorer place for him not being here. It already feels a bit 'emptier' than it used to. I'll miss you Sir Bobby.

The 'Newcastle Evening Chronicle' is (as we know) the Regional local evening paper for North East England. Ashley doen't live in North East England. The only local evening paper he will see (or care about) is the 'London Evening Standard' Still, 'word' (might) get back to him, I suppose. I also suppose he will LAUGH and ignore it (as always). He will do EXCACTLY what HE wants. He IS doing exactly what he wants. Anything the Chronicle puts on its website is immediately reproduced by other media organisations around the world. Look at Newsnow. Most of the storiesreported in the national newspapers are lifted from the Chronicle and re-written with a slightly different spin. Yes, it would be nice to think that the Chronicle can influence the 'remote' (in many senses) owner of our club. I just don't think he cares what anyone says or writes. He just goes his 'own sweet way'.

The 'Newcastle Evening Chronicle' is (as we know) the Regional local evening paper for North East England. Ashley doen't live in North East England. The only local evening paper he will see (or care about) is the 'London Evening Standard' Still, 'word' (might) get back to him, I suppose. I also suppose he will LAUGH and ignore it (as always). He will do EXCACTLY what HE wants. He IS doing exactly what he wants.

What are we, the 20th largest city in Britain? Hardly one of the largest The City boundaries are drawn in a very strange way, meaning that we fall some way down the "largest cities" league. In 1974 (when the boundaries were artificially drawn) large parts of 'what is really' Newcastle were 'left out' of the City, in order to bolster the populations of (and create viable Metropolitan boroughs for) Gateshead and North Tyneside, and leave a reasonable urban population within South East Northumberland. . . . If all of Greater Newcastle (places that are in existence because they have grown and developed because they are part of the 'Greater Newcastle conurbation') were actually officially included within our City Boundary - we would be seen as the big City that we actually are. So, we DO have a large population (it is just 'fragmented' between neighbouring Local Authorities) and so inevitably our well supported Big City football club will survive and return to the top flight. But, for a while Mr Ashley will wreak his vengeance on us, and we are in for a VERY difficult year or two (or three) ahead.

This seems to be a very likely outcome indeed. Revenge is sweet.

We all have our own fairly specific interpretation and assessment of him (Shepherd) and we rarely (if ever) let other peoples opinions on him, influence our own hard-set views! We have these certainties, even though most of us have not met him and do not know him well enough to be able to make any judgements at all. That will not stop us though . . . and I think I include me in that!

Couldnt give a f*** anymore tbh. Id take him in a flash now. I remember how relieved I was when Shepherd was forced out and we got our own "Billionaire" (at last) at the club, who was going to take us on onward and upward to the next level. 'It seemed like Heaven' . . . Now, I realise that Shepherd is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times BETTER than MA, who is undoubtedly the 'stupidest' man in football (and that's saying something!) Just to have someone owning us who CARES about our club (like we do) as Shepherd also certainly does, and who actually lives and works here in Newcastle, will be FANTASTIC in itself! If you are being sarcastic, I apologise. If not, all I can say is you're far too changeable in your opinions. GOOD GRIEF MAN - have you NEVER lived? I have described exactly how I (and tens of thousands of others) felt at that time. Shepherd (the 'poor' only a millionaire, and be-smircher of Geordie Women) was GONE and our 'white knight' a BILLIONAIRE (and a rare British one to boot) had bought us! Killed two birds with one stone. FANTASTIC times ahead! Now, along with the rest of those 'tens of thousands', I have learnt that I was wrong . . . SO VERY WRONG. Many of us on here, have learnt that! It is NOT about (what did you say) "us/me being too changeable in our opinions" (good heavens man!!!!) the FACTS have changed. No, I'm sorry, that statement by you is one of the silliest things I have read in years. The FACTS have changed, we have learned about Ashley, we are big enough (me and most people I know) to admit that we were wrong about Ashley, and many of us feel quite 'fondly' about the prospect of possibly welcoming the Newcastle-based (lover of our club) Freddie Shepherd back. What on earth is wrong about that???

Couldnt give a f*** anymore tbh. Id take him in a flash now. I remember how relieved I was when Shepherd was forced out and we got our own "Billionaire" (at last) at the club, who was going to take us on onward and upward to the next level. 'It seemed like Heaven' . . . Now, I realise that Shepherd is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times BETTER than MA, who is undoubtedly the 'stupidest' man in football (and that's saying something!) Just to have someone owning us who CARES about our club (like we do) as Shepherd also certainly does, and who actually lives and works here in Newcastle, will be FANTASTIC in itself!

It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Again, calm down. If opinions can't be challenged then there seems to be no point to message boards at all. I'm not saying opinions can't be challenged, I just don't agree with put downs or slagging off when people's opinions differ. Heading down that route only leads to people morphing into NE5! I already said that was over the top, if you're still going on about me accusing him of "spouting s***" then what do you want? I'm sorry I said it, happy? I do not accept that your inane ramblings about my descriptions of the (if you know anything at all about the scope and depth of human behaviours) very possible realities that we are now facing, is "my idea being ridiculed" at all. I'm afraid that you misunderstand what is going on in this discussion . . . and you over-estimate the importance and relevance of your ramblings. If you can at any point show me where I've done that, then feel free to quote it. Actually, shall we just agree to differ about what is actually happening here? My perception of Ashley is that he is doing what he is doing for certain reasons. You do not agree with me. I hope I am wrong (because, like you, I LOVE my club) but I do think (from my own experience of life) that I am (sadly) very, very, right. OK . . . friends!!!!!?

I do not accept that your inane ramblings about my descriptions of the (if you know anything at all about the scope and depth of human behaviours) very possible realities that we are now facing, is "my idea being ridiculed" at all. I'm afraid that you misunderstand what is going on in this discussion . . . and you over-estimate the importance and relevance of your ramblings.

Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!) No melodramatic "sigh" this time? If you can prove to me that Ashley's doing this out of revenge then feel free to "gloat" and "sigh" all you "want". "prove" Whoever said PROVE. For the umpteenth time, I did not say P R O V E. Read the posts / understand the posts. No wonder I "sigh" (and you call ME melodramatic!!!)

Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!)

Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh"

Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. "Sigh" - Well, at least no one can say I didn't try!!!! No you've clearly put a spectacular amount of effort into spouting s***. Thanks for your considered analysis !!!

Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. "Sigh" - Well, at least no one can say I didn't try!!!!

Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life.