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If PIF are categorically not interested, which is a fair assumption to make, then the deals dead and there's therefore nothing to discuss. Ashley is notoriously short on patience so what talks could possibly be going on with Ashley and the people who only want 20% of the club? What's the alternative reality to PIF actually still being in discussions which makes the narrative above make sense? I'm not entirely sure what you're saying. My point is I don't see any reason to believe any real or productive "talks" are happening. Talks are either on or off. There's no middle ground here that makes sense imo. So the notion of non productive talks taking place makes no sense. Either they're all in or they're not. Got it: you're being pedantic. Cool. People can signal to the press that they'd still be "interested". They can tell each other they'd still do a deal if any of x, y, or z happen. I guess you'd call that talks, since you're operating on an I/O basis. But the reality is there's no there there. Crikey. Salty much? I'm the pedant whilst you redefine and stretch what the reported "talks" could mean? How about they mean negoiations are still ongoing? That is far less convoluted than what you're offering. Because if as you say the most likely situation is that PIF are out, then the other 2 parties expressing "interest" means precisely f*** all and certainly don't constitute "talks" in the manner you are inferring. There's a big f*** off £280m gap to fill ffs. It just doesn't make sense, what's hard to understand about that? I don't mean to be salty, but I don't know if you misread my initial post or what. I do not think negotiations are happening. I think I pretty expressly indicated that there's no basis for people to infer that the PIF's statement was a mastermind's red herring to throw those meddling kids off track and that double-secret negotiations are really going on. Maybe writing "not 100% dead for all time" was misleading? That wasn't meant to suggest that I think there's anything going on--I've just seen a very, very few deals peter out then get closed after circumstances change, and it's dumb to use absolutes. Aye! That is what confused me, because it seemed clear to me you were saying PIF were out but the deal was "100% not dead", that didn't make sense to me, but neither does the assertion that you can't talk in absolutes in regards to this. You're essentially saying I think it's definitely off, but I can't rule out it not being on. I've probably totally got the wrong end of the stick here. All good. That's it. And your point about absolutes is well taken. Apologies for being a bit of a dick.

If PIF are categorically not interested, which is a fair assumption to make, then the deals dead and there's therefore nothing to discuss. Ashley is notoriously short on patience so what talks could possibly be going on with Ashley and the people who only want 20% of the club? What's the alternative reality to PIF actually still being in discussions which makes the narrative above make sense? I'm not entirely sure what you're saying. My point is I don't see any reason to believe any real or productive "talks" are happening. Talks are either on or off. There's no middle ground here that makes sense imo. So the notion of non productive talks taking place makes no sense. Either they're all in or they're not. Got it: you're being pedantic. Cool. People can signal to the press that they'd still be "interested". They can tell each other they'd still do a deal if any of x, y, or z happen. I guess you'd call that talks, since you're operating on an I/O basis. But the reality is there's no there there. Crikey. Salty much? I'm the pedant whilst you redefine and stretch what the reported "talks" could mean? How about they mean negoiations are still ongoing? That is far less convoluted than what you're offering. Because if as you say the most likely situation is that PIF are out, then the other 2 parties expressing "interest" means precisely f*** all and certainly don't constitute "talks" in the manner you are inferring. There's a big f*** off £280m gap to fill ffs. It just doesn't make sense, what's hard to understand about that? I don't mean to be salty, but I don't know if you misread my initial post or what. I do not think negotiations are happening. I think I pretty expressly indicated that there's no basis for people to infer that the PIF's statement was a mastermind's red herring to throw those meddling kids off track and that double-secret negotiations are really going on. Maybe writing "not 100% dead for all time" was misleading? That wasn't meant to suggest that I think there's anything going on--I've just seen a very, very few deals peter out then get closed after circumstances change, and it's dumb to use absolutes.

If PIF are categorically not interested, which is a fair assumption to make, then the deals dead and there's therefore nothing to discuss. Ashley is notoriously short on patience so what talks could possibly be going on with Ashley and the people who only want 20% of the club? What's the alternative reality to PIF actually still being in discussions which makes the narrative above make sense? I'm not entirely sure what you're saying. My point is I don't see any reason to believe any real or productive "talks" are happening. Talks are either on or off. There's no middle ground here that makes sense imo. So the notion of non productive talks taking place makes no sense. Either they're all in or they're not. Got it: you're being pedantic. Cool. People can signal to the press that they'd still be "interested". They can tell each other they'd still do a deal if any of x, y, or z happen. I guess you'd call that talks, since you're operating on an I/O basis. But the reality is there's no there there.

If PIF are categorically not interested, which is a fair assumption to make, then the deals dead and there's therefore nothing to discuss. Ashley is notoriously short on patience so what talks could possibly be going on with Ashley and the people who only want 20% of the club? What's the alternative reality to PIF actually still being in discussions which makes the narrative above make sense? I'm not entirely sure what you're saying. My point is I don't see any reason to believe any real or productive "talks" are happening.

I really don't think there's any 4D chess going on here. The most likely scenario is exactly what it appears to be: PL asked for information PIF/SA didn't want to give, PIF got fed up and pulled out, Ashley upset, Stavely upset, parties still "interested" (except maybe PIF), deal not 100% dead for all eternity, but no legitimate reason to have any particular hope.

Jesus. The fucker could have just spent 15 min. on Google before regurgitatiing the nonsense he'd been fed. Order of the Texas Security Board to cease publication of false and misleading statements in connection with offer and sale of securities: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ssb.texas.gov/sites/default/files/files/news/1608.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwibnoaDkP3qAhXTmHIEHYnnBcQQFjAKegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0PXUBHvyLE_QcalsYA9kIS

To be honest what more can NUST do, if they attack the league they wont get an audience with them. By engaging they can keep shining a light on the issue and hope the politicians investigate the PLs actions during the takeover saga. I think NUST' actions to date is more to keep the story in the media so others I.e politicians run with it rather than they to land a knockout punch. Sorry, I was actually talking about the Wor Fund announcement that they're going to assert an appeal against the PL in the Competition Appeal Tribunal. I should have quoted it:

Trying to catch the the PL entirely on guard, I see. Ingenious stategery.

You argue a sound case, but the PL response is that your reading of F.1.1.1 is too much a strict letter reading, that the PL acknowledged that PIF disclosed its would-be directors but were fuzzy on what “control” meant in the rules - and because the PL is such a helpful bunch, they gave them an opportunity to correct their papers rather than reject it outright. Yes, the rules say they should have been rejected, but I don’t know the argument “Be damned with ‘helpful’, they should have failed us” is going to beat the above PR line. Although the PL may helpfully allow proposed directors to submit additional information (although, by the letter, their rules don't actually allow for that) the PL have said that an impasse was reached in June, they clearly should have issued a formal notice of disqualification at that point. I think you're correct, but I don't think it matters. It would always have come back to whether the Saudi state or individuals in it (whomever it was that the PL took the position was a director) had "control" for purposes of the definition of "director". It seems the PIF/Saudis either aren't confident they'd prevail on that point, don't even want to produce they kind of information they'd need to produce if that issue came to a head, or otherwise don't feel like pursuing it.

So you have no frame of reference here, Robster. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie . . .

Can't believe his back with this Mauriss bullshit. Reminder: Order of the Texas Security Board to cease publication of false and misleading statements in connection with offer and sale of securities: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ssb.texas.gov/sites/default/files/files/news/1608.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwibnoaDkP3qAhXTmHIEHYnnBcQQFjAKegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0PXUBHvyLE_QcalsYA9kIS

Might be just not be the broker? Ala Kenyon Possible. I'd be wary of doing a deal through a dude who has been ordered not to lie in the course of seeking investments, though:

What does that mean? SEC Form D suggests their annual revenue is less than $1m? Correct. And seeking $7.5MM in investment.

Ima go out on a limb and say Mauriss isn't a real player.

Order of the Texas Security Board to cease publication of false and misleading statements in connection with offer and sale of securities: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ssb.texas.gov/sites/default/files/files/news/1608.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwibnoaDkP3qAhXTmHIEHYnnBcQQFjAKegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0PXUBHvyLE_QcalsYA9kIS

SEC Form D for Clear TV: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1753871/000107997418000511/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml 3838 Grandview, Brea CA: https://www.redfin.com/CA/Brea/3838-Grandview-Dr-92823/home/5892015

Up to the fans. Fuck all the way off.

I tried not to follow this one very closely--self care is very important--but godammit if still doesn't sting.

Why have they used a drawing of Saint-Maximin tapping his veins like he's getting ready to shoot up?

Saudis, pls.

Jesus. I didn't realize Wham have Norwich, Watford, and Villa left. Lucky bastards.

Nice

Live and let live

Well that was ugly.

No Perch?