Heron

No single player has won us owt this season, that's a daft statement to make.

Anyone who actually likes Stoke need their eyes scooped out with a ladel.

Surely you can only support one team. I understand people liking other teams but to genuinely 'support' more than one is bizarre.

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Lovenkrandz is an intelligent player, he just hasn't got the legs and strike partner anymore.

When they carry the ball and keep possesion it's better than just running (or strolling) about and doing nothing of note. Ranger has eased the pressure on us a few times this season just by being able to hold/carry the ball and run at defenders. He needs to work on all aspects of his end product but if he is at least keeping the opposition defence busy he is keeping ours untested. Very valid points. His running and harassing of defenders is very good, but he has a long way to go yet.

It's hardly been aimless. That's what Shola and Loven have been doing for the last few weeks anyway so you have no point. Ranger charges everything down which is a great thing, but it's no use if your fucked after 30minutes and can't score goals. He can potentially be a decent player, but he has a lot to learn. He could learn a great deal from Lovenkrands and his movement if he want's to be a good player.

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I'm not watching the game, I'm trying to find it on the net. Just in general I meant tbh...

I find it funny how just because someone aimlessly runs around it makes them a better player...

It's an absolute travesty when a team like Stoke are ahead against a team like Arsenal, from a purely footballing point of view.

Ranger is just as useless to be fair. Headless chicken.

I hope they are booing him, because it will make the rest of the world realise what a horrible set of cunts Stoke actually are.

Why?

Commons?

Won't be too far wrong... They all look like being wrong. Enrique and Barton will sign new deals and Birmingham will be relegated.

Yeah. Why should we criticise a professional footballer who can't run or manipulate the course of the ball? We're all c***s. Didn't say we shouldn't criticize him, I said people need to lay off him. It's one thing to criticize and it's another to make a total scapegoat. As soon as Shola makes a mistake everyone in the ground is like "Ah for fuck sake man Shola you're fucking shit you like!" but if Lovenkrands did the same everyone would be like "Ah unlucky mate, could see you had the right idea there."

I genuinely believe the overwhelming majority of fans from Villa, Wolves, West Brom and Birmingham are all a bunch of plebians. No disrespect there like Brummie, you seem like a canny enough chap.

There wasn't any real need to go for it any more than we did. We were 2-1 up against 10-men and regardless of 'not going for it' Foster made several good saves and one or two chances were cleared off the line. We could have easily won by 3 or 4 on another day...

Won't be too far wrong...

Thought it was a professional performance yesterday. Got ahead and retained a lot of possession second half. Very Barcelona-esque, we just didn't have the finishing touch to put the game to bed.

Wolves, Wigan and Blackburn...please...do...fuck...off.

LMAO wtf.

One of the best centre backs in the league.

We should be looking to keep this chap until we find something that is undoubtedly better.