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I'm pretty sure if i'd seen Alisdair Darling dancing on a stage in the States surrounded by morons looking for 5 minutes of fame whilst Northern Rock collapsed i'd have every right to be pissed off and you would be too, no?

My concern is the Spurs game. Unless they do what Arsenal did (tickets for a tenner) i can't see more than 20k turning up. Even tickets for a tenner would probably seen as a bit of a tacky attempt to get people back onside after the current debacle. Be interesting to know who intends going to the Spurs game, i was going to travel up for it but i'm away with work so can't make it. Theres probably a lot of ST holders who are on the direct debit system for cup games so will automatically recieve them. The Carling Cup represents our best chance of silverware and as such i'll be turning out for the game. Ah, forgot about the new dd scheme, will definitely make a difference

My concern is the Spurs game. Unless they do what Arsenal did (tickets for a tenner) i can't see more than 20k turning up. Even tickets for a tenner would probably seen as a bit of a tacky attempt to get people back onside after the current debacle. Be interesting to know who intends going to the Spurs game, i was going to travel up for it but i'm away with work so can't make it.

So is it now "old board Vs new board Vs no board"?

this is what Ashley and his merry men want....50 000 good little sheep behaving themselves Grow up. BooBoo isn't implying we shouldn't make our voices heard but is absolutely correct in simply stating that we need to get behind the team. sheep. balloon

That's an excellent point - if the players think an absolute legend like KK can be utterly shafted without the fans batting an eyelid I can't imagine they'll be too inclined to bother their arses going the extra mile for us when the chips are down. Ironically KK will probably be out shopping with his missus having put all this behind him and enjoying a nice holiday. For me this isn't really about KK any longer, he's gone and i'm fucking gutted, but i've accepted that. It's about the lies we have been fed (that Mirror article along with the Mike Ashley interview offer some peachy quotes that show quite clearly we've been bullshitted) and the fact that the guy who owns the club doesn't seem to give a shit he's done this. I don't care if he has appointed other people to do the job of running the club, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to realise that when the shit is hitting the fan about something he knows a load of people passionately care about, you shouldn't be out getting smashed up with a bunch of wannabes and getting photographed by the press. He's not stupid, he'd have known there was a good chance those photos would get published and people would be up in arms. I'd say there's a good chance he read that statement before it was released. It's as if he's trying to test just how far he can push people and get away with it. He's pushed certain people too far and deserves to know that we won't just lap it up and pretend all is rosey. I wouldn't be surprised if he's relying on Geordie Pride to win the day and everyone to cheer their hearts out for the lads regardless. I'd like to think he'll get a rude awakening come Saturday.

You're entitled to your opinion, but the way you insist on putting down anyone who disagrees with it is getting pretty tiresome. The Mag, True Faith, Toon Ultras, the clear majority on here (see poll results) not to mention the likes of Sir Bobby Robson and Alan Shearer all think there's something rotten with the current set-up, and believe something should be done about it - I agree with them and applaud their willingness to stand up and be counted on behalf of Geordies everywhere. I agree with this. I understand that the team need to be got behind, now more than ever, but they're professional football players, being paid tens of thousands of pounds a week to go out and play football. They should be able to beat Hull in an empty stadium (not that i agree in any way with the boycott idea). How about the flipside? If everyone turns up, sings and cheers as if nothing has happened, then those players may very well think that Ashley and co can do what the hell they like and everyone of them does have a price, that they'll all be moving on sooner or later because the fans will just take it from behind and just carry on regardless. I think there is a line between passionately supporting the team and blindly following come what may. A lot of people have decided the line has been crossed and some kind of protest has to be made. Not everyone agrees, fair enough, but to be calling them every name under the sun because of it is bullshit, if they've bought their ticket / their replica shirts / whatever they have as much right as the next person to make a stance. I don't think they'll be there calling you names for cheering the team on and not protesting, so why have a go at them? Nobody knows what has happened other than those who won't, at present at least, come out and tell us, so we all have to forge an opinion based on what we know, we obviously won't all agree.

Just to confirm, it was a Reliance spokesperson who made those comments http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4116480,00.html

Our position... We have not expressed interest... Sounds like a group to me, the only individual reference was actually the bit that did not rule out future plans to invest. I guess it depends how you want to read it, i'm certainly clutching at any straws i can see!

Haven't .com made a mistake there? I'm pretty sure that's a quote from Reliance, not for Ambani himself. Maybe wrong, mind.

How legit? No idea tbh. I've been told by someone who's a mate of Paul Kemsley that Newcastle are seriously interested in appointing Fatih Terim. And that is about it. Don't know if he is your #1 choice or whether he is at all interested in taking over, but if he says that Newcastle are interested, then I believe that, hence my £20. FWIW, I don't think Newcastle under the current regime deserve a good manager. How they treated KK is about as shabby as it gets. I'm assuming in your view then Spurs deserved Howard fecking Wilkinson after what they did to your namesake?

Has anyone mentioned Ketsbaia?! If not, there's probably a valid reason, but with people throwing Steve Bruce in the mix...

Can´t really understand your fear of that! I really do admire wenger and what he´s done at arsenal. they play beautiful football have a young squad and dont pay silly wages like us and end up with overpaid useless players like smith. And he still buy "expensive" good attractive players nasri. can´t see there problem......though i know we are at least 5-10 years behind. If we follow the identical model, great, but do we have a Wenger to do that? As i said, my fear is of us being a second rate version - not able to attract the cream of the crop and settling for second best, leaving us in mid table obscurity, selling our best players as soon as they show some form and not challenging again. Even Arsenal, with Wenger, have failed to win anything for a few years. What he does is admirable and one league win for them is worth 5 Chelski wins in my opinion, but it seems now they can no longer compete. Watch chance do we have without Wenger, London and being years behind?

This is my biggest fear. I hope it's not the case, but if we turn into a low-rent Arsenal, bringing youth players through without the lure of the capital / recent history Arsenal have so getting slightly worse players, then selling them on i'll be gutted. Not sure i could take us being turned into some kind of football farm. As i say though, i'm hoping that's not the case. The problem is I'm just unwilling to trust Ashley any more. That exclusive interview he gave turned out to be a pack of lies. So I've got no idea as to what he wants this club to become. Agreed

This is my biggest fear. I hope it's not the case, but if we turn into a low-rent Arsenal, bringing youth players through without the lure of the capital / recent history Arsenal have so getting slightly worse players, then selling them on i'll be gutted. Not sure i could take us being turned into some kind of football farm. As i say though, i'm hoping that's not the case.

He's accomplished much here both as a player and a manager. Revolutionised the club during his first spell as manager, *and re-educated the team as to how to play football the right way during his brief second spell. *His influence over the closing stages of last season saved us from the relegation axe, and with this Mr Ashley's 'investment' was also kept afloat. *In essence this is my response to Baggio's thoughts 'that during his latest managerial spell KK has done nothing which is deserving of appreciation etc'. Keegan owes Mr Ashley nothing, likewise he doesn't owe us/the supporters anything either - especially the wankers who are drumming up this 'he's left us in the s**** for a second time' line. My sentiments about Keegan's departure. My respect for him - as a manager - would've diminished fractionally if he'd stayed while having his strings pulled by a set of puppeteers who deem themselves to be more important football-related figures than the manager. No manager, and he is 'old school, with any sense of professional integrity will just sit back while having their power to manage compromised ie. at the front-office level: transfer activity & coaching staff acquistions/dismissals. Keegan has walked away from an unambitious w***** in the form Ashley. He wants what's best for the club, he always has and his ability to take the club forward. He shouldn't be weighed down by the sort of lack of ambition not seen since McKeag's reign imo, when the latter funnelled off our best players. I refer to the board in the final hours of the transfer window and their attempt to flog/sell-off players currently in Keegan's 1st team frame, Owen in particular. He's walked away with his professional integrity intact and fair play to him. However for Newcastle-Upon-Thames it's a different kettle of fish. And from which source did you get the bit in bold which seems to be the basis for your assumption on the board? I think if we are to cast aside assumptions and only deal with fact we won't have anything left to post!

We'll find out. If Keegan stays quiet and we don't find out what happened, I agree

I just don't understand how it could be Zola... He has nil experience, no links to Newcastle (bar the dwarf) and no outstanding credentials that i can think of. Still prefer him to O'Leary mind, i think that would actually end my interest in football altogether.

Latest from .com, think they've covered all of us here...

Idiot. Is that not exactly what has happened like? I understand people have different views like, but i don't see the need to push your views in everyone's face in a thread like this in the way Baggio is. Why not stick to the main KK thread or one of the millions others, rather than one that are people paying a few tributes to a guy who, up until the beginning of this week, we'd have all agreed is a legend of the club? It's smacks of wummery and trying to stir shit? We get the message, Baggio thinks KK fucked us over, we don't all agree, why argue about it in every thread? May as well stick something in here about the old board being better than the new and be done with it. Don't mean to have a go but it's been a shit few days for people, lets have a bit of respect for each other. I'm not arguing about it, this is the first comment I've posted in this thread since posting that. It seems you are only interested in views similar to your own. Ok dude, if it makes you happy to believe that you go for it, it just gets a bit tedious in my view reading a load of threads that tail off in exactly the same direction... I'm more than happy to sit and argue about it (actually, in this circumstance i'm not, as we all have our own views and without the facts it's a waste of time arguing something none of us can prove) but just think this ain't the best place for it. Fair play though, didn't realise you had only posted the once, should have paid more attention, darting between threads trying to read everything as been offline for a couple of hours. Apologies

Idiot. Is that not exactly what has happened like? I understand people have different views like, but i don't see the need to push your views in everyone's face in a thread like this in the way Baggio is. Why not stick to the main KK thread or one of the millions others, rather than one that are people paying a few tributes to a guy who, up until the beginning of this week, we'd have all agreed is a legend of the club? It's smacks of wummery and trying to stir shit? We get the message, Baggio thinks KK fucked us over, we don't all agree, why argue about it in every thread? May as well stick something in here about the old board being better than the new and be done with it. Don't mean to have a go but it's been a shit few days for people, lets have a bit of respect for each other.

Those fuckers in the background smiling are really boiling my piss. I hope they get a fucking kicking at school tomorrow

Yep, I'm waiting for news that they haven't been granted permission to build an extension to the ground so they need to build a new stadium in London and are being renamed the NU Lons

Even .com are listening to proposals for some kind of protest. This is fucking ridiculous, i honestly don't know what to do next, i'm numb

Yeah, sorry, i find it very hard to be anything but seriously pissed off with those in charge at the club. Keegan obviously said he wanted control, they said no, they can fuck off. They should have given him the chance, they must have fucking promised him he would have control, then if it had gone wrong fine, kick him out, but to force him out 3 games into a season is stupid beyond belief. More than anything it's a MASSIVE fuck you to the fans - we don't care what you think we'll do what we want. Well, bollocks to them, i'm not going to be reasoned about it, i want whoever is responsible to get out our club. Bring on Reliance, or anyone else for that matter.