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Surely all games fall into these 2 categories? Or do we have games we expect to draw coming up after August?

Reyes best position is AMF/SS. Not a typical winger in my opinion. I think we waste his qualities if he's used on the wing. Wenger wins. You lose. Reyes was a terror on Arsenal's left side before his mommy started missing Spain. Tell you what is a waste on the left side, it's Damien Duff. Whilst I completely agree Wenger is a genius, i do think he plays a lot of players out of their best position, no matter how well they play in the position they're put...

Thing is, and i know it doesn't really hold a great deal of relevance, all of you guys know a hell of a lot about the club and through this must realise why you both have the views you do, even if you don't agree with them? It's not like any of you are WUMs (notable exclusion of NE5 on a few occasions from an outsider viewpoint) and you all (NE5 included) want to see us do well. Some people will be cautious, some people optimistic, that's more due to the nature of the person than anything we know about the club. It's like anything, history and stats can be used in anyone's argument as there is so damn much in just the last 15 years that any view can be argued / defended, it's all about perception. I guess the one thing it does make me realise is what a damn difficult job the club has on it's hands, as people rarely agree on everything and with the set up we have there now any disagreement will be convoluted and then magnified if the press catch hold of it, even if said disagreement doesn't actually exist.

Certainly wasn't having a dig at you, was just cruising through a few of the threads and everything seemed to be going down the same path. Looking at the above line, I think you actually agree with me. But fair play, totally understand it's your view and it's a message forum designed for people voicing opinion...You add a lot more value than me as i say a collective amount of fuck all 90% of the time - would rather be reading your views than none at all, just be nice to have a topic without some of the backbiting. We do all want the same thing after all!

So, does every thread on here now just end in a row between 2 people from the old board / new board camps?!

Yup. Like our best run last season happened when Milner was out of the team. Bit harsh, think it was more the coinciding of Smith not being in the team... Think he's worth a go there, more than anything because i can't really see a great deal of attacking midfield options on our current budget. Be interesting to see if Keegan pulls someone out the bag though...

Just seems to be his agent getting progressively more desparate. He's gone from Barcelona, to Arse / Chelsea and now Spurs... Give it a couple more weeks and his agent will suddenly be welcoming Newcastle interest...

That's the easy option. Every year people think the same 3 that come up will be relegated, doesn't often happen that way. Bolton Stoke Sunderland

press in totally made up story shocker: http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1780_3833326,00.html

I used to be of this view, but taken from a personal angle, the Daily Telegraph wrote an article about the company i work for and in a piece of no more than 200 words they got the company's business wrong, they got our location wrong, they got all kinds of figures totally wrong. Now, i'm not saying it's the same thing, but this was an article in the finance section of the Telegraph, a supposedly reputable source writing about things that any of us could find on the internet if we did a small amount of research. They didn't even apologise, just withdrew the article from their website 2 weeks after publishing, corrected everything they got wrong and put it back up. I'd imagine the quality of journalism in the sports section of your average tabloid is substantially worse and so can only imagine what percentage of what they write is actually correct. Yes, occasionally are scoops, but stories that gradually worm their way out, such as the Aimar story, seem to be when a dripped rumour becomes an avalanche so everyone repeats it to avoid seeming like they were missing something. If it's a load of bollocks, who cares. I honestly reckon that if you just watched players and listened to what they said in press conferences you could decipher whether they were completely happy at a club as well as monitoring clubs to see how healthy they were financially / what their transfer policy is / has been then you could have a more accurate stab at an entire summer of transfer activity than what any of the papers do.

It is a bit depressing. I strongly believe a lot of what is being said is absolute bullshit, but in the modern era of everything being communicated as fact to all and sundry, it can be doing us no good having hacks constantly write about us being rejected by various players. Footballers aren't exactly notoriously bright and i'm sure they check the odd footie site now and then (if they've all got feckin facebook and bebo, one would think they have managed to master the basics of using a computer). It's kind of like being tried for a crime you didn't commit, it doesn't matter whether you're innocent or guilty, once the Daily Mail get hold of it, you're fucked either way. Hope i'm wrong though.

Cole was on the news when i got home from school... Shearer was when i was round a mate's house chilling out during school holidays and my mum came hammering on the door, which she had never done in my entire life, so i totally shat myself that something dreadful had happened... It wasn't helped when she started her sentence with 'your granddad's just been on the phone'... Then she said 'You've signed Alan Shearer', i sprinted past her and straight home, put teletext on and nearly burst into tears i was so excited. One of those moments i'll never ever forget. Fuck off with the 'where were you when Diana died' that i often hear asked, it's all about where you were when Alan Shearer signed, that exact moment you found out it wasn't a lie... I can only imagine what it would feel like to win something, but Shearer signing will always remain up there for me until that day finally comes.

Did you continue reading down to this bit: At 3:53pm on Tuesday 15th July 2008, Aimar was transferred to Newcastle United from Real Zaragoza for a fee of £7.6M. He will wear squad number 8. Later that day, at 4.19pm he was sold to Sunderland, although the deal is resting on his nationality being changed to Irish.

Terrible SPG...

He's saying that all the extra information available these days is mostly bullshit; it was far more exciting and worthwhile when we knew nothing about signings beforehand. He's depressed that nothing seems to be happening, but he knows full well that he's depressed for no good reason. The real reason he should be depressed is that we were crap last year. hehe, i see i must read things completely differently to everyone else... My bad, then

Erm...what exactly is wrong with that text? Pretty much spot on in my opinion. Hmmm... k, well i'm looking like being outvoted on this one, the whole thing came across as a rambling whine to me, half bitching at the club for there being no gossip going around and half saying if gossip did go round we'd fall on our ass because of it... Maybe i read it incorrectly, but i have re-read a couple of times and it seems still seems like some mid-90s bandwagon jumper with schitzophrenia(sp?) getting annoyed because we aren't in the press every day.

Dave - seriously, you think that's a good letter? The guy can barely string a sentence together and things such as: "Tabloids are speculating faster and wronger than ever before. Why? Because nothing newsworthy is really going on." "When Andy Cole went to Man Yoo, I was gutted. He was crap before we sold him, but he was still my hero." "Ah the mid-nineties I was happier then. I didn't have to watch Sky Sports News for hours waiting for some Newcastle-related things to happen. I didn't have to peruse endless blog sites looking to burden someone with my opinion. My mum wouldn't let me phone Teamtalk, It was too expensive, and mostly as much crap as it is now. I wasn't as...obsessed." (not even sure what the hell this means!) "But it is not enough. They aren't satisfying because 'we' (I should stress at this point I have never played for Newcastle United) still haven't won anything. Man Yoo fans will be listening to Giggs regail them with tales of 2 CLs and 10 EPLs. We get John Beresford telling us how much Steven Taylor has improved." "So what is the reason we are all miserable? Because Newcastle were crap last year. " All that irked me somewhat...

For the love of god, it seems some expect rather more... Although i can't even decipher what the below is even trying to say. If anyone has 5 spare minutes please send something to F365 to let them know we aren't all total retards: A Depressing Summer For A Toon Fan Every day I come to your website, multiple times a day, when I should be working. I'm mostly waiting for a bit of news on my team (Newcastle United). I am deeply unhappy with the summer. Not only is it a lot colder than it should be but not much has been happening at NUFC outside the Joey Barton 'fiasco' (Honestly, a blind baby panda bear could have seen that coming, no?). So I have tried to self-reflect and explain the emptiness we all feel in July. We have all played Championship Manager and we have all won. We have all signed Ronaldhino and Gerrard because we were challenging for the CL final. We have lived through the emotion simulated on a PC and now we want to see it in real life. The problem is computer games only take seconds to simulate weeks, and we want all the transfers done in the hour and half it took us last night in our bedrooms. But in reality, at a club (like NUFC which is looking more stable than it has done since Uncle Bobby was in charge), that sort of quantity of news isn't generated. Tabloids are speculating faster and wronger than ever before. Why? Because nothing newsworthy is really going on. Nowadays in an age of information at our finger tips 24/7 via the internet that fans have an insatiable desire for 'info'. We want to know exactly what schemes Keegan is concocting for the match at Old Trafford, who's coming for a nosey round the stadium. I remember when you used to have to check teletext every day, all year because there were no transfer windows. Still most transfers happened in the summer, but they weren't given the same credence, the same importance as they have with the current generation. When Andy Cole went to Man Yoo, I was gutted. He was crap before we sold him, but he was still my hero. I knew nothing about it til it happened. But that made it more dramatic. When Shearer turned down Alex and jumped into bed with Kev, I didn't know about it til it happened. But that didn't matter, because I knew about it WHEN it happened. I didn't really need to know before because I didn't know Alan Shearer and couldn't have greased the wheels to get him to sign for Newcastle. I still want to know before 'it' happens, but telling me is not really a good idea. Why? Cos I'd blab to everybody, and the club I support would look stupid if it didn't come off. (And there might have been a ManYoo fan who was listening and then they'd have paid more and got Shearer.) Ah the mid-nineties I was happier then. I didn't have to watch Sky Sports News for hours waiting for some Newcastle-related things to happen. I didn't have to peruse endless blog sites looking to burden someone with my opinion. My mum wouldn't let me phone Teamtalk, It was too expensive, and mostly as much crap as it is now. I wasn't as...obsessed. It isn't the club's fault. It's mine. I know I have an obsession. I invested in the club emotionally. All they are offering is a ticket to come and watch them kick a ball around. They aren't offering to be my mates, or to take me out on the lash. They actually make a lot more provision than they used to. Stories every day about NUFC on their website. There are places I can go and talk to other similarly deranged folks... But it is not enough. They aren't satisfying because 'we' (I should stress at this point I have never played for Newcastle United) still haven't won anything. Man Yoo fans will be listening to Giggs regail them with tales of 2 CLs and 10 EPLs. We get John Beresford telling us how much Steven Taylor has improved. That is the essence of the problem. We haven't signed anybody who will win us the league because we aren't good enough to challenge. We need to improve year by year and really the big stadium, the high-profile players, the 'loyalty' of the fans, well ultimately all that stuff means nothing without even a League Cup. Even Spurs have the League Cup. So what is the reason we are all miserable? Because Newcastle were crap last year. Michael J McGowan (Does that J make my name look fat?) http://www.football365.com/mailbox/story/0,17033,8744_3817216,00.html Maybe we've just discovered DaehtihS's real name...

"All London Evening papers" There used to be two (there was one called the 'Evening News' in the 70s) now there is only one. Sorry, I don't know what you mean!!! There are now two London 'free' evening papers released, the London Lite and the London Paper, these are in direct competition with the Evening Standard and are given out to people free on the streets. Concentrate mainly on London-based Sports news, but do occasionally branch out if the story is juicy enough. The 'free' papers here are mainly morning ones (The Metro) or weekly ones. I don't hink we get any 'free' evenings. Got to admit i was of the view the standard is dying a death, stalls seem to be disappearing as everyone takes the free evening papers which are basically heat / crap sports news. But i must also agree the Standard is Daily Mail written shite. As is the Metro. It's all about the Londonpaper, you're at least guaranteed a few pics of some celeb hotties for the journey home

Think that's the first time i've laughed out loud at work at a message board post...

A whole new thread to speculate that a random club who may have bid for a player is us?! dunno if this even warrants being in 'realistic summer targets'!

Yesterday they didn't even know he was coming, now all of a sudden they know the in's and out's of his payslip. Amazing. And have they not got his old club wrong, he's Valez Sarfield (sp?) not Newell Old Boys. Just goes to show that the journalists don't even check the most rudimentary of facts (i've not checked here so am fully prepared to be shot down if i've got this wrong!)

And what the hell would that be? Urban Dictionary; HAHAHAHA Funny as fcuk!!! Sweet Jeezas. What will these sex pervers cum up with next. Monkey face and donkey punch would be two that spring to mind...

Doom monger

Very very impressed with the way this has been done, but admit to knowing nothing about the player, pretty exciting stuff...