themanupstairs

I wish I could say you're the most pointless poster on here, but I can't, because I can't seem to be able to ignore your arrogant and self-important condescending tone. Despite me clearly stating that I was being pedantic, you still had to post about it with ridiculous hyperbole.

Quick check on wiki says Solano scored 45 goals for us, while Robert managed 30. Obviously in goals to games ratio Robert wins hands down. #SadPedant

Yup, and it's also quite interesting that there seems to be a lot of genuine hatred for Liverpool on here. Always thought it was just me. I think the first 4-3 is what started it, and it became more than a rivalry after that game. Add to that the fact that most of my friends are Liverpool "fans". I remember having a huge argument with one of them back in my uni days over who was better, Shearer or Heskey. The year was 99 or 2000, and Shearer was an established world class center forward, recognized the world over, and Heskey had just joined Liverpool and scored a few goals at the start of the season. He was adamant that Heskey was 10 times the player Shearer ever was. Cool story bro material I know, just had to get it off my chest for some reason So yeah, Liverpool football club is as disgusting an organization as any I have ever come across. The red kit, the fan and media wankfest over their players and managers, justice this and justice that, YNWA, famous european nights, and all that nauseating cack.

big celebrations over here since the final whistle. Stunning achievement! Hope they draw Barcelona or Real.

Valencia Fiorentina Southampton Edit: Plymouth too, after that great night at Home Park

spackems, liverpool and liverpool. in that order

Manure - Benfica is an absolute riot. Excellent end to end stuff.

I'll post it again since it was the last bastard post on the previous page. Dream away Perez Edgar Coloccini Albert Duff Am Faye Gillespie Robert Beardsley Shearer Cole

You seem sweet and polite, but Best doesn't actually lose the ball that much. It's one of the best things about his game imo.

Perez Edgar Coloccini Albert Duff Am Faye Gillespie Robert Beardsley Shearer Cole

I still don't see the point in restraining someone from shooting at goal! I find that pretty stupid to be honest. The point is that in this instance, should Tiote find himself in a good position to shoot, he should shoot. I'd rather he took a shot on goal than pass it backwards and break down the attack. He, for example, shouldn't be having speculative pops at goal, in the 91st minute when we're only 1-0 up. But that's a tactical thing and nothing to do with ability. Nobody has said he shouldn't shoot man. What you are suggesting though is that he should show more attacking intent. I'd rather he was available for when we lose possession tbh, not trying to ghost into the box, we've got 5 other more attacking players who can do that. That isn't to say he's not allowed to mix things up, he just doesn't need it coached into him. No he doesn't need it coached into him at all. But I'm sure he takes part in shooting and crossing practice in training. Plus, no, I didn't say he should show more attacking intent. What I meant was that he should be more confident in contributing to an attacking move, should he find himself in a situation to do so, rather than delay or disrupt the attack, because "he's a DM" Technically that is suggesting he should be showing more attacking intent like, but fair enough. I just think what he's doing he's doing well and it's not like he spends the match sitting on the halfway line, he's allways on hand to recieve the ball and usualy tries to do something posotive with it when in the final 3rd. I could name many occasions where he has decided to have a pop, try a killer pass, or curl one in from the wing. I certainly don't think he delays or disrupts our attacks like, I don't know where you've picked that up from. Exactly. What I'm saying is that he shouldn't curb that side of his game, but have more confidence in it.

That's true because Cole was the much more natural finisher. A Shearer and Cole partnership in the mid 90's would have won several titles for the club that had them. And to think we could have been that club .... Cole Shearer Beardsley

I still don't see the point in restraining someone from shooting at goal! I find that pretty stupid to be honest. The point is that in this instance, should Tiote find himself in a good position to shoot, he should shoot. I'd rather he took a shot on goal than pass it backwards and break down the attack. He, for example, shouldn't be having speculative pops at goal, in the 91st minute when we're only 1-0 up. But that's a tactical thing and nothing to do with ability. Nobody has said he shouldn't shoot man. What you are suggesting though is that he should show more attacking intent. I'd rather he was available for when we lose possession tbh, not trying to ghost into the box, we've got 5 other more attacking players who can do that. That isn't to say he's not allowed to mix things up, he just doesn't need it coached into him. No he doesn't need it coached into him at all. But I'm sure he takes part in shooting and crossing practice in training. Plus, no, I didn't say he should show more attacking intent. What I meant was that he should be more confident in contributing to an attacking move, should he find himself in a situation to do so, rather than delay or disrupt the attack, because "he's a DM"

And that's exactly my point! Which is why I highlighted the "good position to shoot" bit. Someone like Tiote has a better chance of success if he's in a good enough position to shoot from, according to his ability! Surely PL footballers should have the basic ability to shoot at goal from the edge of the area, given the chance? No one's saying he's Laurent Robert! But you'd want Robert to track back and get down for a tackle every once in a while, even though it's not part of his "mandate", nor was it his strong point. It's the least I'd expect from a professional footballer.

Who the f*** shoots when they don't think they will score? It happens in every game, man. What happens in every game is players having a go and hitting it wide, at the keeper, get it all wrong, or score. When they decide to shoot it's because they think they are in a good enough position to try!! That's pretty obvious isn't it? I don't see anyone taking a shot with they arse to the goal, just behind the half way line, thinking "I bet it doesn't go in"! That's clever; it's called speculation. Look it up. I'll look it up when you stop condescending posts of people who are trying to engage in a debate, and actually engage in some yourself, rather than typing quasi-cryptic one liners.

I still don't see the point in restraining someone from shooting at goal! I find that pretty stupid to be honest. The point is that in this instance, should Tiote find himself in a good position to shoot, he should shoot. I'd rather he took a shot on goal than pass it backwards and break down the attack. He, for example, shouldn't be having speculative pops at goal, in the 91st minute when we're only 1-0 up. But that's a tactical thing and nothing to do with ability.

Who the f*** shoots when they don't think they will score? It happens in every game, man. What happens in every game is players having a go and hitting it wide, at the keeper, get it all wrong, or score. When they decide to shoot it's because they think they are in a good enough position to try!! That's pretty obvious isn't it? I don't see anyone taking a shot with they arse to the goal, just behind the half way line, thinking "I bet it doesn't go in"!

I reckon Andy Cole should be getting into these teams ahead of Ferdinand. As for omitting Beardsley, who is by far the best footballer I have ever seen don the black and white....

Who the f*** shoots when they don't think they will score? If you're talking about actual ability, I don't think it's too much to ask PL standard footballers who get paid millions to have a pop at goal every now and then. If you mean he won't have the confidence to shoot, that's another story, and a problem, that needs working on. We need goals from as many players as possible for obvious reasons, so I don't see why the f*** not try?

I don't think CT means he wants him to "attack" more. But rather his effort when he finds himself in an attacking position/situation. Keep in mind that Tiote can drive with the ball, has a powerful shot, and can chip in with a cross or two. I'm in agreement that he's a destroyer first and foremost, but sometimes players find themselves in a scenario where they are able to create or score a goal, and Tiote should make more of an effort to showcase his attacking ability. I don't think anyone's saying he should have a go up front or maraude up and down the wings. He's still a midfield player who should be able to execute efficiently anywhere on the pitch he may find himself.

Seems the total opposite to me, we've gradually improved as a team and I can't remember a Newcastle side working this hard collectively. Again, I just can't agree with that. He seems a very positive man and calls it as it is. Admitted he got it wrong against QPR this season and Stoke and Everton last season. Always praises the players, very rare that he blames someone else, even against Blackburn in the cup, he stopped short of saying we lost because of the ref, like Warnock, AVB or Fergie would. Instead, he just alluded to some poor decisions and the 'breaks' which is a favourite of his, along with f***ing SUPERB Might have jumped the gun, but I think he's won me over! Still room for improvement, but last season and this he's been far better than I originally expected. He's probably changed over time. He admitted himself in one interview he got things wrong in the past and has changed parts of his attitude etc. In his time with us you can hardly fault him. I have heard him say that, i also heard a good point raised on the guardian football podcast when I used to listen to it, that Pardew has that look of determination back in his eye that he had at West Ham. He knows this is his big chance and he's been humble (yet confident) enough to know that he needs to be at 100% all of the time to make it work and that involves self evaluation. That's in contrast to the likes of Souness and Allardyce who took the big job and thought 'right, i'm here on merit, just need to follow the formula' rather than trying to improve themselves. You can't be involved with a group of players on a day to basis and ask them to keep their standards up and improve if you're not committed to doing it yourself. Very good post. Self honesty and self evaluation are 2 key attributes of a good manager in any walk of life. If you talk about being the dog's bollocks, then you need to damn well show it, otherwise losing credibility and hence leadership of the team around you.