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Pardew: “The problem is that where we are now financially means that we can never really fulfill the expectations of the fans. They have memories of European football but the gap is getting bigger as the years go by."
He's suggesting that European football is beyond us, but we were only 4 wins off Liverpool in 6th place last year. If we'd used our momentum to add to what we had then we could have gone upwards, just as we did after promotion then 3rd place under Keegan.
As Pardew says the gap is getting ever wider between those with European enhanced incomes and the rest, but we have the stadium and the support to be up there again. We have to use momentum and build on it, not keep bringing ourselves to a grinding halt while praying that we don't go backwards. A winning team can sell players easily and at a premium - but don't sell them until the team has evolved enough to not need them.
We could speculate to accumulate without mortgaging our future - by all means scout far and wide and buy bargains, but let them earn their way over time into a succesful team then sell off the slack. Evolution not constant painful revolution.
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One has to wonder why something so logical isn't the strategic basis for operation by a supposedly intelligent businessman such as Mike Ashley.
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Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out.
i disagree. the higher the fee, the more money ashley will have recouped, and hopefully the faster the knacker will sell up.
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Great, more 2nd hand manu players. Butt and Smudge comes to mind, he will be s*** and you can quote me on that, after all red nose never lets players leave unless they are A. s*** B. will be s*** very soon or C. Has done something naughty to him. There is a reason he hasnt been called up for France after his last u23 game. He has nothing in the final third, it will be like having two Jonas' on the pitch. just without the workrate(Obertan).
People need to stop FM scouting, even the youth coach of Bordeaux where confused when manu decided to get him, as they didnt even rate him that good.
source?
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The over-reactions and pessimism on here is laughable. The lad's certainly got age on his side. He's clearly talented, with plenty of pace and a strong physique. As long as it's a reasonable fee (which it will be
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Mark Douglas
Problems about Barnettas bar tabs in the hotel room at Jesmond. It is very huge. Ashley not keen to pay... #NUFC
He Drankwell-o, Barnetta.
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Footballers, with the wages they are on, should keep their mouths shut no matter what goes on at boardroom level at their clubs. It's part of being professional role models. At the end of the day they are sportsmen, who are meant to serve a noble purpose. Spouting off at every opportunity shows they don't take their position seriously enough. Fantastic as Barton has been for us recently, he can now f*** off and will have no sympathy as far as I'm concerned.
i respectfully disagree. it's more than a little short sighted to believe that because someone's paid well they should keep their opinions to themselves, and that goes for anyone not just footballers. I'm not sure about you but if I wanted a footballer to be a 'role model' which i'm not sure about anyway! Then I'd certainly want my kids to look up to the sort of person who speaks out on what they perceive as injustices or wrong doing, not the sort of person who takes the money and shuts up, that's an appalling example for any kid.
Sportsmen? Noble purpose? What are you talking about? They're paid to play football, that's it.
I think there are channels where unhappy players can vent their anger, but it shouldn't be on twitter or in the press. If you're unhappy, it should be discussed behind closed doors.
absolutely. seems unlikely though doesnt it? the players will know as well as us it's pointless talking to pardew about it.
So go above Pardew's head then.
If I'm unhappy with something and my boss doesn't do anything to rectify it, I speak to his boss.
yeah
So you really don't think this whole Barton thing has gone up to Pardew's boss?
all i was doing was making a point about speaking out vs saying nothing because of 'the wages you're on'
The wages dictate the level of responsibility that falls on the shoulders of any employee. In the case of top tier footballers it is the responsibility to honor their contracts by staying fit, giving 100% on the pitch, pulling in whatever direction that serves the team, as well as staying well away from any behavior that may disrupt the team and the club that pays their wages. In Barton's case specifically he has violated his contract, now and in the past, on more than one count.
Fuck Ashley and Llambias. They're running our club into the ground. It's still no reason for Barton's (and Enrique's) outbursts, as they will not result in Ashley leaving or owt.
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Footballers, with the wages they are on, should keep their mouths shut no matter what goes on at boardroom level at their clubs. It's part of being professional role models. At the end of the day they are sportsmen, who are meant to serve a noble purpose. Spouting off at every opportunity shows they don't take their position seriously enough. Fantastic as Barton has been for us recently, he can now f*** off and will have no sympathy as far as I'm concerned.
i respectfully disagree. it's more than a little short sighted to believe that because someone's paid well they should keep their opinions to themselves, and that goes for anyone not just footballers. I'm not sure about you but if I wanted a footballer to be a 'role model' which i'm not sure about anyway! Then I'd certainly want my kids to look up to the sort of person who speaks out on what they perceive as injustices or wrong doing, not the sort of person who takes the money and shuts up, that's an appalling example for any kid.
Sportsmen? Noble purpose? What are you talking about? They're paid to play football, that's it.
I think there are channels where unhappy players can vent their anger, but it shouldn't be on twitter or in the press. If you're unhappy, it should be discussed behind closed doors.
absolutely. seems unlikely though doesnt it? the players will know as well as us it's pointless talking to pardew about it.
This is what I meant by keeping schtum. A disgruntled footballer should speak to their manager/coaches/club directors/agents in private about their problems. Airing their grievances in public is counter-productive in this day and age.
Serving a noble purpose? Isn't this what sport is meant to be doing? A way of life that promotes health, equality, togetherness and sporting behaviour? The fact that football is now seen as "entertainment" on par with Hollywood films should never detract from the fact that it is meant to be a positive thing for society as a whole.
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Footballers, with the wages they are on, should keep their mouths shut no matter what goes on at boardroom level at their clubs. It's part of being professional role models. At the end of the day they are sportsmen, who are meant to serve a noble purpose. Spouting off at every opportunity shows they don't take their position seriously enough. Fantastic as Barton has been for us recently, he can now f*** off and will have no sympathy as far as I'm concerned.
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Sounds like you have s*** mates.
I do man! I do
The sad twats canceled the weekly 5-a-side to see what team "King Kenny" would put out against Valerenga ffs!! Did the same last week to watch Galatasaray. Felt a sense of retribution when the c***s looked mediocre and didn't win. Absolute knackers the lot of them.
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Signing a good forward seems totally beyond us at this point in time.
Yep, the only hope I have of a forward, is a loan. Really can't think of anyone who fits our bill though.
Looking at current bigger squads, Macheda, Vela, Adebayor(lol) Guidetti, Santa Cruz, M Diouff would no doubt all be available although not particularly appealing. Man United and Arsenal have a few kids who wouldnt be good enough for this level i would imagine.
Bellamy has said hes going nowhere, Welbeck/Sturridge wont be allowed to leave and cant think of any more clubs in England with a spare striker to loan tbh.
Yup. We'll need to buy a striker outright rather than scavenge someone on the fringes of the bigger clubs. Shane Long suddenly looking the best option available sadly. We'll probably end up with Luke Moore #fml.
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Bin dippers ffs!! Scouse mates calling him s*** for the last 2 years will be wanking themselves silly into each others' throats over him
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Would be underwhelmed with Green
Massive understatement. Not only do we not need a keeper, we don't need a dodgy one at that. No thanks.
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No age
RIP
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Lecce.
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Worst case scenario, Ashley paying off his debt by making a profit makes it easier for him to sell the club.
Silver lining to every cloud.
Right?
I find myself clutching at straws as well. Just feels like i'm clutching them with my armpit. -
Floodlights gone out. Shambolic tournament tbh
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How shit are Brazil
Heartless and gutless. No surprises there.
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Refreshing to see a team properly going for it like even it does seem to be being done in a slapdash way. Fair play to the dippers.
But when City does it, it's disgusting?
Well quite. What's refreshing about a team spunking great wodges of cash they've essentially won in a lottery, not earned? That's been the case every year since Abramovich.
Weren't Liverpool skint pretty much before they got bought out? Just because they were good 25 years ago doesn't mean what they're doing is any different to Chelsea & City.
They were skint because the former owners used the clubs profits to pay the interest on their loan, which was borrowed to buy the club. Those interest payments aren't there anymore.
It's different to City and Chelsea in as much as our new sponsorship deals are more lucrative than both of those clubs, and with the debt interest payments being eliminated Liverpool are in a near healthy position. Given the new financial rules Liverpool will be able to hold it's own with both Chelsea and City a few years down the line. Arsenal and Man United, because of their bigger stadiums, will take more matchday revenue than us until we either move or refurbish Anfield. Once that's done only Man United will take more football related revenue over a season.
If we were only good 25 years ago where does that put clubs like yourselves?
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Lots of money was placed on him returning to Leeds on Monday. Let us pray.
Kum bay Smudger, my Lord, kum bay Smudger;
Sumn bay Smith, the Lord, sumn bay Smith;
Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya,
O Lord, kum bay
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£10m + Sturridge. Matuidi for £13m. How would people think about that?
Much as I love Tiote, I'd take that.
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Might get a new top printed with
REVAMPED TRAINING GROUND
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It's 50/50...
He's 27.
But he is French-born Moroccan.
Would that qualify for our continuation of the French revolution?
indeed it would. i'd take that deal tbh. of course it's most likely to be pure fantasy.
Alan Pardew
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We weren't too far that is true, but I reckon it's down to the entire league panning out quite differently than usual, whereby the teams that finished 2nd and 3rd lost 9 games each (a lot more than normally would lose), and hence meaning that the smaller fish picked up quite a few points off them. If this continues to happen, finishing in a European spot is just as likely as relegation for a club of our stature and an average squad as ours.