Neil

I'm happy with that not being given as a foul, keeper makes a hash of it and Adebayo is way stronger in backing in/shielding, but the issue is that's wildly inconsistent with so many nothing "fouls" that do get given on keepers, so I can certainly understand Burnley being pissed off.

Inject it. Mou with an inevitable yellow too, he'll be due another ban soon.

Forest are shite. Would be in huge trouble if the bottom 3 were any better.

Spot on.

I don't think I appreciated quite how bad a commentator/pundit Dion Dublin was until tonight. I know the standard is dire in this country but fuck me.

Can't believe there's been no chat about it either.

It's annoying that apparently reputable sources are actually pushing this. It's a total non starter. Again, all just rhetoric to distract from the main issue.

With respect, talk of taking the hit now, 3 worse teams, getting away with it, is a load of fucking condescending nonsense. It's all just rhetoric to take away from the core issue. The punishment is totally and utterly disproportionate, and transparently unfounded.

Aye, just off to pop the lottery on.

I don't think they will. Can't see them winning in Turkey. Draw might not be much use either.

Maybe this is a sign of where they're at, but I actually thought Man Utd were decent tonight, despite conceding 4, which I know sounds bonkers. I thought they showed more about them than they have in a number of games they've undeservedly scraped 1-0/2-1 this season. Just this time a couple of things went against them. And, obviously, defended like children.

I was about to say about whether you've seen the last of Burn as a regular starter but looks like that's been covered. Was your best player by a mile.

In short we're still shit but a bit less shit than we were. We ought to be comfortable mid table currently but on the end of a couple of absurd smash and grabs early in the season when we had no striker. He's made us more solid, clearly not the long term answer but given the shambles we were, and are still in, baby steps.

The whole situation is deranged. Gone full Liverpool over a decision that was 50/50. Arteta was a lunatic with his reaction, but the statement is far worse. Fully expect them to get some kind decisions in the bear future, proving that gaslighting works.

I'm astounded they've got as many points as they have. Some proper scabby undeserved/massively lucky single goal wins.