Neil

Oh, wormy. You sound just like me. Take that as a warning.

That would surely be worth the 2 yellow cards for 1) time wasting and 2) taking his shirt off (or would he keep his shirt on?) Either way. It'd be worth seeing.

The thought of Sunderland turning over anyone is strange. How many matches have they actually been superior to their opposition in this season? 1? 3 penalties, 2 own goals, I know it's early in the season but them being 7th is pretty tragic.

Yep - get The Times most Mondays, mainly for that.

Real Sociedad Mark Williams DNB Sao Paulo Not at all random. Edit: glad I didn't put much on now, Williams is getting bent over.

I think it'll be tight, personally.

did you see there games v arsenal and citeh ? very much second best. they are only slightly better than the safc team that wentdpown with craog russell when all season they said "we have conceded so few goals"......they done it by defending by the 10 even when they were attacking..........then too late they realised they had to score to stop up. 2nd best vs Villa too. Add in debatable penalties and own goals and you have Sunderland this season. They'll thankfully be nowhere near their current position come the end of the season.

Tbh, if the simultaneous celebration was actually good, say, a mass robot, it'd be amusing.

That hate is particularly refreshing. FUCK OFF WITH YOUR DANCING!

I'm sure I saw Kevin Nolan get booked as well. He's so lazy ffs.

Smith didn't get booked then. Ref booked another player (possibly Kadar) for booting the ball away. Really? Well, that's the mystery solved. How didn't he get booked though?

Smith hacked down Walcott, that was the 1st yellow. Never saw this 2nd one!

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Looking back off the top of my head: The Young penalty at SJP was soft albeit daft from Harper, definelty on contact though. Luckily Villa were that bad it didn't cost us. Henry should of been off at Wolves. Although Wolves should of had a penalty as some have pointed out. Nolan taken out at Everton. Coleman and Fellani lucky to finish the match as well. The Alex penalty at Chelsea. The absolute disgrace that was the City match. The second goal today. Luckily a few of them haven't cost us. Apparently they "even themselves out over a season". So after Christmas we should be in line for a shitload of points we don't deserve. They really don't. One of the many wrong cliches in football. They don't for us anyway. They generally don't. Unless you're one of those wonderful top four teams. Still doesn't even out. It just goes wildly in the other direction.

Looking back off the top of my head: The Young penalty at SJP was soft albeit daft from Harper, definelty on contact though. Luckily Villa were that bad it didn't cost us. Henry should of been off at Wolves. Although Wolves should of had a penalty as some have pointed out. Nolan taken out at Everton. Coleman and Fellani lucky to finish the match as well. The Alex penalty at Chelsea. The absolute disgrace that was the City match. The second goal today. Luckily a few of them haven't cost us. Apparently they "even themselves out over a season". So after Christmas we should be in line for a shitload of points we don't deserve. They really don't. One of the many wrong cliches in football. They don't for us anyway. They generally don't.

Looking back off the top of my head: The Young penalty at SJP was soft albeit daft from Harper, definelty on contact though. Luckily Villa were that bad it didn't cost us. Henry should of been off at Wolves. Although Wolves should of had a penalty as some have pointed out. Nolan taken out at Everton. Coleman and Fellani lucky to finish the match as well. The Alex penalty at Chelsea. The absolute disgrace that was the City match. The second goal today. Luckily a few of them haven't cost us. Apparently they "even themselves out over a season". So after Christmas we should be in line for a shitload of points we don't deserve. They really don't. One of the many wrong cliches in football.

Just because, yes, I am that guy - Perch's handball in the 1st half was as clear as day tbh. That said, I have to agree you've had a rough deal with decisions so far this season. As was the handball from the Arsenal defender. 1-1 tbh. I'm just pointing out a decision that went your way amongst the many that haven't.

Just because, yes, I am that guy - Perch's handball in the 1st half was as clear as day tbh. That said, I have to agree you've had a rough deal with decisions so far this season.

I'd love to get to more Everton games, simply can't afford it though. One thing I would say is though, away games are fucking class.

Ranger was one of your best players. He wasn't like. Can't fault his effort but there was no quality there. Except he was. Not outstanding but caused problems for the Arsenal defence. How can you single Ranger out for (unjustified) criticism ahead of Lovenkrands, Routledge and Taylor, to name 3?

I can see your frustration at the 2nd goal and indeed the final scoreline but I thought Arsenal were pretty good tonight and showed their class quite emphatically.

Ranger was one of your best players.

can you elaborate on how they could have been more resounding? chris is our manager, he will remain or manager. how more resounding can you be? The bit in between "he is our manager" and "he will continue to be our manager" - I'd have thought they'd come out with something along the lines of "he has our unequivocal backing and we are delighted with the job he is doing." The media will no doubt turn this into a little shade of doubt, then stretch it, pick up on any negative result and use it as pressure suddenly being on Hughton.

Without putting 'yous are all talking shite' I don't know what else they can do other than give him a new contract now. Which they're right not to. I'd like to see the first option, personally.

That statement is hardly convincing (well, the 3 lines I've seen from BBC). From that, the hierarchy are hardly giving them their full backing. Surely, they could have been more resounding in their backing? Of course, it's totally laughable there is any talk of him being relieved of his duties. Just, the club could had the opportunity to 100% quash rumours there and give no possible bait for the media.