Ishmael

You know Ben Arfa is close to full match fitness if Jonas is doing stuff like that

All our attacks going through the middle

"A classic example of two Newcastle players going for the same ball" haha

Saylor you clown

oh my jonas

What the actual fuck? Hodgson

Sick of watching Finish dishwasher adverts

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Want Gerrard to smash 1 ball into the stands, for old times sake.

For a second I assumed he'd been dropped from the bench. Phew.

Haha, what a shit penalty that was

Fail to see how that isn't a yellow in Atkinson's world?

I love this troll

He was probably really really pissed off with Squillaci because he's not even a footballer?

Yeah, that's complete and utter s***. If a player stands out notably in an area of their game, which they are expected to contribute greatly to and that is backed up by statistics then they have done a good job. Good example was Ameobi's cameo a few games back when he got slated by almost everybody. Then a quick check after the game on his passing showed just how well he'd both retained the ball and moved us up the pitch. People are just missing depth and context. Good statistic use is good. But Ameobi's passing statistics from that game didn't reflect anything or prove that he moved us up the pitch at all. It's just data and without being combined with context from the actual game it means f*** all. Like that article I posted explains, not all completed passes are good passes and similarly not all 'completed' tackles are good tackles. Without context, stats in football are meaningless. The game is simply too fluid with too many permutations. Nope. The chalkboard showed that when he was in possession he retained it 90%(ish) of the time, with a majority of passes going forward, mainly to the left flank. It was exactly what he was brought on to do and he did it well. And I said in my last post about context and depth, so we kind of agree?

Yeah, that's complete and utter s***. If a player stands out notably in an area of their game, which they are expected to contribute greatly to and that is backed up by statistics then they have done a good job. Good example was Ameobi's cameo a few games back when he got slated by almost everybody. Then a quick check after the game on his passing showed just how well he'd both retained the ball and moved us up the pitch. People are just missing depth and context. Good statistic use is good.

I hate when people think stats alone can prove how good a footballer is. Agree.

I hate when people say that stats are bollocks.

Joking aside, it really is excellent.

I was being serious you clowns.

I love how Stoke defend deep and narrow whilst their wingers have the licence to press hard anywhere up the pitch. Beautiful

Pretty obvious that a combination of the Europa being a piece of shit, many Stoke fans assuming they're not going far and unfamiliarity with the competition (they have no good times to look back on like we do) can pass off shit attendances in the group stages The group stages of the Europa league ffs Less prestige than a preseason friendly.

Funny that every Stoke fan, player and manager comment I've seen goes at odds with that but whatever makes you happy. Economic climate argument would've worked better :patronising thumbs up: Examples of said Stoke fans? Maybe you're not reading into the majority?

Think that shows how little people think of the Europa League than anything else.

Newcastle in scoring 3rd goal which changes the game completely shocker. Birtles