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This is particularly appropriate, as it was only a few weeks ago that a spectator died at WHL in exactly these circumstances. I believe he received attention very quickly, but it was a massive MI and there wasn't much hope. IIRC it was a grandfather who'd been taken as a birthday treat, and his son and two grandchildren were with him.

Some of the pictures are terrific.

If Souness was 20 years younger I'm not sure he'd be the one having the shite beaten out of, tbf.

That's what I thought. Barton: "That was well over the line" Ref: "As much as your corner was on the line?"

Christ, that's twice now.

Bale and VDV and Parker, annoyingly.

The last few US shirts have been pretty smart. Not enough people wearing them unfortunately.

I like the Puma ones too, but I'd need to see the sash in action just to be sure. It might actually look a bit cheap as part of a full kit. That Chelsea one is fucking gorgeous, sadly.

"Gonnae Gies Money" I feel slightly bad, but I laughed my tits off at that H.M.R.C.

Regardless of what else they are, or stand for? I don't. It's not simply that he's lacking loyalty or respect to that club, it's what his behavior says about football as a whole. I don't want it legitimized at all.

What he said. Bored of this shit.

I think you're absolutely bang on about Wenger here HTT. Not so sure about KK, mind, but you'd know better than I.

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3933/ronniearse.jpg and furthermore http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/138/arsearse.jpg

That was my first thought too (although I only got through about 20 seconds.) Does anyone on here do this stuff? Genuine question btw.

I wouldn't say they did - Schweinsteiger's much more than that. But i do agree with the overall point - Xavi and Busquets for Barca, or Vieira and Gilberto for the Arsenal invincables. two solid midfielders who give a basis for the rest to work magic. Couple of decent brazilian sides have gone with two out right defensive midfielders in there, mind. Nothing's inherently wrong with playing two defensive midfielders, but Baba, I don't think you can argue that a formation has nothing to do with the entertainment and quality of the football. It's a combination of the formation and the quality of the players. The quality of the players in the two sides johnnypd named are among the best in the history of football!

Do you reckon the rest of the league have closed the gap? I don't, I reckon the rest of the league is as weak as its ever been. On the whole I'd say the league has gone backwards in terms of quality. Man United are weaker than they were in 09 but remain at a constant level due to SAF. Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are all significantly worse than they were. City have improved artificially against the general tide of regression and Spurs tbf to them have filled the gap left by the others, but I still feel their progress leans more towards a 1 season flash in the pan more than being a genuine top side. Then you've got the likes of Everton and Villa who are shitter than they were and seemingly dead on their knees financially. The relegation group and midtable malaise are for me as s*** as I can ever remember. The competitiveness has improved and has made the league slightly more interesting that way, but generally I think pretty much everybody has gone backwards. I don't think you can legitimately say we're a one-season flash in the pan, given that we've finished fourth (up against a flush Man City), fifth (and done well in the CL) and are now pushing for third. I think we're better this year than we were last, but agree that Chelsea, Arsenal and Man U are all worse. 2 players have improved you drastically this season compared to last and it still annoys me that you've basically got the striker that makes the rest of your team infinitely better on a subsidised loan from Man City. I know it seems daft to refer to one player when you've admittedly improved drastically as a club but I don't think you can argue how much better he makes you. The fact it's the direct result of the other improved team I mentioned buying their way to artificial success and then deciding they don't need half their players just makes it all the more irritating. That said, I probably do your team a disservice as you are on the whole a very good side at the moment. Yeah, Ade does make a big difference. However, don't forget that before the Newcastle game a few fans (ours and others) and a few journalists were pointing out his lack of goals and lack of effort, suggesting that this was his usual fallow period after an initial flurry. We're still paying solid wages for him though (our guess is 70-80K pw) which would otherwise be going to someone else, and another team could have done what we did. I hate that teams can loan within a division - think it's fundamentally wrong.

Do you reckon the rest of the league have closed the gap? I don't, I reckon the rest of the league is as weak as its ever been. On the whole I'd say the league has gone backwards in terms of quality. Man United are weaker than they were in 09 but remain at a constant level due to SAF. Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are all significantly worse than they were. City have improved artificially against the general tide of regression and Spurs tbf to them have filled the gap left by the others, but I still feel their progress leans more towards a 1 season flash in the pan more than being a genuine top side. Then you've got the likes of Everton and Villa who are shitter than they were and seemingly dead on their knees financially. The relegation group and midtable malaise are for me as s*** as I can ever remember. The competitiveness has improved and has made the league slightly more interesting that way, but generally I think pretty much everybody has gone backwards. I don't think you can legitimately say we're a one-season flash in the pan, given that we've finished fourth (up against a flush Man City), fifth (and done well in the CL) and are now pushing for third. I think we're better this year than we were last, but agree that Chelsea, Arsenal and Man U are all worse.

Christ, this got to four pages? You guys really needed to have played this week.

And the only team not to get mullered is the one that plays two defensive midfielders, natch.

Wouldn't say great games like our 4-4 v Arsenal last season. The Chelsea 3-5 Arsenal aside, most of the other games were one sided affairs, good to watch mind, except that last one, me no like that one. The original post was in response to today's Barca game! My point was that either the author was taking the p*ss, or he was wrong. Edit: Tooj I mean, not Sewelly.

Hey, know your audience

Yup. Loads better than the borefests that usually happen when the top teams in this countet play. Not sure if serious? Spurs 1 Man City 5 Man U 8 Arsenal 2 Spurs 4 Liverpool 0 Man U 1 Man City 6 Chelsea 3 Arsenal 5 Newcastle 3 Man U 0 Spurs 5 Newcastle 0 Among others. All of us have been twatted apart from Man City.

Christ, do you live in a lighthouse or something?

I honestly don't feel embarrassed at all. Away at a decent League One side who have only lost at home once all season. They were uncomplicated and physical, tough to play against on a small, bumpy pitch. Would have taken a draw beforehand, plus no injuries or suspensions. Suits me fine.

Although to be fair, he was absolutely right about that harmonica kid.