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Finished 14th on 45 points the season before they got relegated. Finished 12th the season before but only finished on 44 points.

Aye why not? It's something a bit different. Might just give us that bit spark we've been missing.

He needs to show it then. And quickly.

We were fighting relegation 5 years ago. That was under different ownership and a different manager. PIF/Howe arrived and we pulled clear. That isn't relevant to today though. Since then we have spent top 6 money (around £750m) on a new squad of players. To even be in this position after such a spend is totally ludicrous to be honest.

It generates this debate because some people think he's taken the club as far as he can and that we are now on a downward trend with him and others think he's still the man to turn it around. That's the debate. Tbf if he'd even shown any signs that he was flexible enough to at least try to change things I'd probably be more inclined to give him time (next season) as a mark of what he'd done previously, but as things stand the thought of more of the same next year is pretty concerning.

How are we going to resolve the issues in the summer if he's too stubborn to change what currently isn't working? Also after blowing £250m on utter shite last summer our hands will be somewhat tied in what we can do this summer anyway. People expecting sweeping changes to the squad and a whole new way of playing are going to be massively disappointed.

As of right now is what's most important though. What happened 3 or 4 years ago is largely irrelevant when discussing our problems here and and now as it's so long ago in the past. In fact most PL clubs have probably changed managers in that timescale such is the nature of the game.

First time they've ever been a step 4 club I believe. Well done to them. I've been there once Enjoyed it. Nice people there.

I think they'll score (they've only failed to score twice this season v Paris FC and Atletico) but I could see Bayern getting another 3 or 4. Bookies do have PSG as slight favourites to qualify (3/4 and evens for Bayern).

If you've got a spare tenner to lose it's a canny saver bet. Could almost pay for next year's season ticket with the winnings should the unthinkable happen.

Think Bayern go through now like. Couldn't understand PSG trying to slow things down a bit there. Don't think a 1 goal advantage will be enough to take to Germany.

You were probably too busy canvassing everyone to ask if they were members or ST holders and then explaining to the members why they weren't as good fans as what you are

I was in the Gallowgate and wasn't squirming

If he's watching this and he's honest with himself he'll realise that he's not at their level.

I was there mate. We were brilliant. I agree with Howe on this occasion.

Take it up with Howe mate. He said that was us "at our best". I thought we were brilliant that night as well, especially with what was riding on that match, so I'm with him here.

Just read Howe's quotes from that match. The 1st half was us at our very best he said. Obviously that sort of intensity is impossible to maintain for best part of 100 mins so a drop off in the 2nd half was always likely, but even so we also won that half as well and it should really have been 5 if I remember rightly as Wilson missed a sitter just after Bruno scored. Didn't really resemble anything like this season.

That maych v Brighton didn't resemble anything like how we've played this season. Your memory is playing tricks on you. And unlike the Chelsea game you mention, we also won the 2nd half.

Absolute garbage. The first half we played some unbelievable football. Should have been put of sight at HT.

Keith Lards brother on VAR as well. Bad history with the pair of them.

Ironic that it ended up being Nick who did hit the ground running before a monumental tail off.

Draw with West Ham and even of we lose the other 3 we're fine regardless. Sooner it's sorted mathematically the better though!

Literally the only positive was that he at least got himself into a position where he got the chance to miss. Before his exile from the team I was getting fed up of him just ambling into the penalty area and invariably not being anywhere near when the ball came in.

Sunderlands best player by a mile is 33. The likes of Bruno and Joelinton are just bairns in comparison