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Not that it makes much difference but my history only shows this season.

We spent £180m on new forwards in the summer like.

Hold on a minute up until a couple of weeks ago some of the more deluded on here genuinely thought we'd still make Europe. Now we've been shit because there's nothing to play for? Which is it?

Pretty certain we won't go down even if we don't win again this season but if the unthinkable did happen, those massive ticket price hikes will be harder to swallow when the likes of Lincoln and Bristol City are rocking up here.

Bruce left us in a far worse position than we are now like. We were nailed on for relegation before PIF/Howe came in.

Ask Howe. He made him our record signing.

I think you could argue that football is the most simplistic game in the world. Probably why it's the most popular. If you take into account we've spent £700m on new players in the last 4 years why do we find it so hard to score goals and stop them going in at the other end? Is it the coaching or is it down to the players the manager has signed?

They look like they are.

Maybe the manager and his coaches are stale as well.

Same reason as Hall.

Cos he was here on loan then we signed him permanently.

Great. But that doesn't explain the tactics, the formations, the weak mentality amongst other issues that have totally blighted our season.

All I take from that is that we've spent over £787m on football players since Eddie Howe was appointed. And that's before we bring in agents fees, signing on fees, bonuses and wages into the bargain which takes it to over £1Bn. Regardless of how we are doing. The game is fucked. That's absolutely ridiculous.

Not recently, and recently is most important in football given tne average lifespan of your typical PL manager

Not all managers spend £250m on duds in one summer though* *Maybe not Thiaw he's done ok. He spent £250m to take us from 5th to 14th and dropping rapidly. Not many managers survive that.

What happens if Howe signs another dud striker and another dud goalkeeper though? Do you give him another chance next summer to try again?

We've actually spent around £700m on new players since Howe arrived and have recouped around £250m back in sales. Given that level of investment there's no logical reason for us to be in the position that we find ourselves in.

I'm not having a go at Howe for yesterday like. Thought we did ok even if it was against a very under par Arsenal team. I just don't think he's the man to lead us into next season based on what I've watched week in, week out this season. Realistically we aren't going to be able to bring in 8 or 9 players and ship out the same amount. It's likely to be 3 or 4 maximum and probably sell to buy as well so I expect more of the same to come. It's also becoming increasingly obvious that Howe only really has one way of playing. Either that or he's the most stubborn manager out there. Problem is that even last season the signs were that that other coached had worked out how to play against him. Coaches of smaller clubs with far less resources could come to SJP and do a number on us. It's happened on a far greater scale this season and we find ourselves where we are around the bottom echelons of the table. It's a league that evolves quickly. Coaches change, systems change, ways of playing change. We just seem to keep doing the same thing week after week and because of that we are getting left behind.

Got a good manager.

Gullit to Robson? Bruce to Howe?

They weren't top before KO and Bournemouth beat them 2 weeks ago tbf.

Did fine. Problems were down the other end with a lack of creativity and attacking threat.

Aye that goal where they still whinge about the ball going out at the Gallowgate End. We beat them that day didn't we?

Moral victory

We've done well. Switched off for the corner and got punished. Other than that I'd say we've been the better team.