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Even last season in the Championship we were clearly a lot worse on the ball than the teams around us despite picking up more points. We're pretty much awful to a man.

we weren't shite beyond the pale which I think the important thing to take from it.

Fairly typical us before we lost Lascelles and started shipping 3 a game. Pretty solid whilst never looking like we'll score.

She's obviously some kind of flagrant sadomasochist

Rooney's was last game too. Somehow we're the ones who finished one of these games with 10 men

The fuck was pretty much our entire team doing there? Just standing in our fucking box as Elliott had the ball.

Merino has been really good too.

Elliott and Darlow are literally the same person.

Why give the ball back there? We had it when the whistle was blown.

"Absolute rubbish" in response to an honest question. Howay man

Aye the first I've seen him was against us, he was everywhere.

Even then I think that's more down to the dynamic of the game shifting rather than him being better because he's fitter. It happens with all of our players - look at the first half yesterday and against Bournemouth for example. It's not necessarily tired opponents, just opponents who either aren't in the game or have dropped out of it. When they're organised like Everton were in the 2nd half we pretty much can never score or even look close to scoring other than from a set piece or individual error. I don't think any player we have changes that coming on at 60 minutes.

I suppose what I'm saying is (and this isn't directed at you Santoon as I don't think you've said out wrong) we can look to individual players and point out positives and flaws but it ultimately means nothing until we actually have a proper squad. We pretty much went a season with people calling Cabaye shite. We went like 4 year with people calling Ben Arfa shite (Shelvey isn't anywhere near as good as either).

But we replace him with Hayden and we're no better. We replace Merino with Hayden and we're no better. Defensively they're technically stronger players but we still get fucked in midfield. We play 2 defensive midfielders with Perez working his arse off ahead of them and we're still awful in midfield. Shelvey isn't a great midfielder but he's easily the best we have on the ball, it doesn't amount to anything though as with him out of the side we're still weak in midfield and with him in the side we still create nowt.

Aye but it still amounts to nothing as the team is rubbish. We replace Shelvey with Hayden and we still create fuck all and get fucked in midfield, we replace him with another Merino and we'll still create fuck all and get fucked in midfield. Shelvey sauntering about the pitch has literally zero negative impact on us over the competition as we've seen when he's out of the side. He's never going to be a dynamic midfielder. It's all a lie anyway, people couldn't give a shit about attitude hence how Ritchie is getting slated, and Dummett (who's an average Premiership fullback) gets the same. When we're shit it's just open season on anyone for any reason.

Merino's a good example actually, despite not being the finished article he's physically imposing, good tackler, great in the air, decent enough passer who looks forward, seems to have good strike on him, good technique, yet he's still not able to impose himself properly in midfield and make a decent impact on the game. We're just absolutely shite.

It wouldn't have counted as an assist. Our entire squad is shite. Without Shelvey starting we've still been getting battered despite him apparently being the problem in midfield. Merino and Hayden (and Diame) have been no better.

I turned it off as soon as I saw the red card (my central heating needed adjusting) but the BBC have described it as such: and I'll have to see it again like because it looked a genuine attempt to win the ball with one leg and I think he might actually have played it. Was it a straight red? 2nd yellow. Just re-read it Though it was like, confused by them describing it as a 'horrible lunge'. I'll have to watch it again like.

Everton full on Allardyced us in the 2nd half like. He wasn't good but we've struggled to break teams down for years, we desperately need a number 10 who isn't fucking pitiful.

I turned it off as soon as I saw the red card (my central heating needed adjusting) but the BBC have described it as such: and I'll have to see it again like because it looked a genuine attempt to win the ball with one leg and I think he might actually have played it. Was it a straight red?

Thought he did a couple of things well and was otherwise out of the game with everyone else. His link up play isn't too bad.

Was good enough first half along with everyone else (other than Darlow). Disappeared 2nd half along with everyone else. Was sent off for no reason. I sentence you to LIFE IN JAIL.

Said it a million times but he was never given a clear budget and had to sell to buy - not knowing when he'd get the money and at what point - and was undermined on top of that. If it was up to him we've have had Tammy Abraham or Lucas Perez instead of Joselu for a start.

He did absolutely nothing wrong

Did he not get the ball? Looked well harsh Looked like he did, even if he never it was close. Completely pointless sending off.