Crayola Kid

this guy can pick a phone up. worth a try?!

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/06/17/from-200m-messi-to-20m-lukaku-europes-60-most-valuable-players-this-summer-170602/ decent article on transfer valuations. little bit at the end shows theoretical values of whole squads of each prem club. we have 147m (euro) worth of players, none of which are valued at over 20m, according to the research done for the article. obvs, at no point would andy carroll have been valued at 35m using these criteria, but some useful benchmarking all the same

have you tried drugs? passes the time, you might like em

agree of course brummie, i brought these figures up to show the difference between the market spurs (for example) are operating in and our own (and yours, i'd guess). there's nothing to say we cant attack the top 4/5 spots, last season showed that, but if and when it happens it should be recognised for the achievement it is rather than seen as things being put right "finally" in spite of having laurel and hardy running the club

Because they win stuff. We almost got relegated and finished with the 3rd highest average attendance so they're doing something right. Also, what does he mean by top clubs? Man United sell out every week but then they've got lines of snap happy Asian chappies (forgive me oldtype) queuing for tickets week after week, similar for Liverpool just replace Asian with Irish. The London clubs seem quite secure, but then they have absolutely mammoth fanbases right on their doorstep. Every other club in the league is either playing week on week with an indeterminate number of empty seats in their ground or are looking at ways to get fans through the door. Anyone who criticises a club for making it affordable to supporters to get through the turnstiles and watch their team, especially in this financial climate, is a pillock. Anyone who thinks clubs fill their stadiums for any other reason than that they are successful is the REAL pillock - esp when NUFC have a record of filling the stadium AND having a major waiting list....WHEN they are successful and also for quite a period when they are not....attendances only start to fall off when fans either have no confidence in the club i.e. Board, or dislike the way the team plays. As for Man U relying on 'Asian types', the only pity is that NUFC should also, by now, have a better world-wide profile. Of course, if you are happy to be a provincial club who make up the numbers, you will be happy with the way the club is run.....certainly seems that some on here revel in that status.... i'm not so sure it's about selling all of the tickets, its more about what you get for them, and what revenue comes in from other matchday factors such as corporate suites, and food and drink sales. the point i made further up was that spurs take nearly half a million quid more per match, on a crowd ten thousand smaller than ours. assuming a full SJP, we'd need to make an average of ten quid more per head to match spurs, who themselves make much less on matchday than the real earners at the top of the table.

i'm not sure we could get too much more in gate receipts, and location limits the corporate thing, the market just wont ever be as big. not sure how much more revenue we need to pick ourselves up from 16th in the prem mind, looking at the table above

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its not just matchday, no, but that small example across three clubs shows we arent comparing like with like. safc crowds would be much smaller at our prices, and spurs would perhaps be much larger at our prices, given a suitable stadium. each club operates in its own market. i was responding to the long post above which referenced a year where nufc took more revenue than all but 4 clubs worldwide. generally agree with the slightly empty feelings towards what football has become, but the figures given didnt tell much of the story. man utd took twice what barcelona did that year, that doesnt mean they have failed since, or that they would have done any better under different ownership (turnover)

agree very much that the time period chosen above (1998) suits the argument given better than any other would. how many years before or since have we topped barcelona, for example? the stat that sticks in my mind, relative to this subject, concerns the matchday revenue for the first season back up in the prem, under hughton/pardew (used because that was the period disussed by the blogger who provided the figures). the swiss ramble gave the figures in a blog at the time for average attendance and matchday income, tickets/programmes/pies etc. with an almost identical crowd figure, we took over one-and-a-half times the amount in revenue that sunderland managed. with a crowd ten thousand per game smaller than either, spurs took over one-and-a-half times what we did, week by week. call it thinking big, or whatever, but even if we still got a big crowd, would anyone actually be happier paying more for a ticket and more for a pint if it meant the revenue figures stacked up better at the end of the season? it wouldnt matter who owned us, the market for tickets and for corporate ents in london puts a decent premier league side in a different league to us, in these terms

Secret Footballer ‏@TSF 49m Mancini definitely gone from City and rumours that Benitez to be next manager of Newcastle. All disclaimers apply-don't shoot the messenger! Expand Reply Retweet seems unlikely, but like others above i'd say this would be great - cant think of a LIKELY appointment which would beat this

would love him to get a derby goal. he's been an on-off talisman in his time here, and this could be his last chance

if this is ever going to happen, even for twenty minutes, it's this sunday pleasepleasepleasehowaymanalanman We'll have to be 2-0 down for that to happen, silly. well, juggling squads, playing twice a week, fighting relegation (?), they are all over, yes? it's down to appetite now, do we experiment, do we cruise to the end of the season giving squad players minutes on the pitch, or do we try and forge a functioning attack for next season along the lines of the last half an hour today. i'm hoping to see some front foot football if ban arfa is available, cos his play today showed we can do so much more with the other players when he is around. sissoko, for example, should find a lot of room, and be given the ball in space more often, when we are at full strength

if this is ever going to happen, even for twenty minutes, it's this sunday pleasepleasepleasehowaymanalanman

whoops

was worried that he was sat on his backside when we scored, looked like an injury cos he was down for a few seconds before and after the goal. huge relief that he didnt come off, but why was he just sat there? dont remember a tackle on him at that point

gardener got his tenth today - 2 game ban

pushed the team forward too, huge effort all afternoon

We have to play like we want it more than they do - Fulham are safe and have nothing at all to play for. No excuses if we dont come out attacking them from the off

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/suspensions Here's a list of players 1 card away from a ban. Includes Perch, and with next week in mind also includes Craig Gardener. I'd be having words before kick off at the very least if Perch has to play at all

Deadline passed on April 2nd, it's 15 now. Hope that's right, just saw on another forum that the 2nd Sunday in April was the cut-off. That was just a cut-and-paste job though not a proper link so could be wrong. A two game ban would be badly timed with all these injuries

James Perch is on 9 yellows for the season - is he risking a ban for a tenth, or has the deadline passed - does anyone know? I wonder whether he'd be better kept back on the bench today if so, in case we are short of options next week.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/03/25/from-man-utd-at-1bn-to-wigan-at-42m-whats-your-club-really-worth-250102/ "After scrutinising all the established valuation models and the niche requirements of the football industry, the components of this model were finalised. The model includes a club’s: revenue, profit (or loss), net assets (all the clubs assets less all its liabilities – including debt) as well as football industry key performance indicators: stadium utilisation per cent and wages to revenue per cent. here are what the 20 current clubs are really worth. The prices assume that the buyer, on top, also assumes responsibility for any current debt the club has:"

i think he has a specific role in the side which involves covering an overlapping fullback (currently on the right) and carrying the ball to our more attacking players. whether he does this brilliantly or not is hardly the point, he is in there to do this job, without it we would need to change debuchy's mindset for a start - right now he has full license to play up the pitch and we benefit from that. you cant ask ben arfa to do this, what would be the point? surely, anyone expecting this guy to make way for any attacking player will surely be disappointed? we're playing 4 3 2 1 as much as any other formation, no way jonas is part of an advanced 3 in a 4231. i'd like to see anita tried in this role, but whatever happens does anyone really expect us to play the current eleven with jonas taken out for HBA?

didnt look like a break?

http://footballisfixed.blogspot.co.uk/ this blog ran for a few years, until 2012, written by someone who claimed contacts in the asian betting markets. all of the blogs from the time have been deleted, but it started up again this week. a lot of it was cryptic, a lot of it was about other corruption in financial markets, but all of it was compelling and very readable. i'll be keen to see what he comes up with now the media are reporting suggestions of corruption. sometimes, he would be very specific in public blogs, and point to matches where, he says, the asian markets suggested large amounts of money being placed on certain outcomes (often linked to late changes in referees, which seemed to happen a lot for tv games). one in particular was a very short blog 15min before kick off the day we played liverpool, the match which was played just after babayaros brother (cousin?) had died. it said simply that the market advice had changed, and that newcastle were certain to win. soon after, he started charging large amounts in subs to read private blogs, which would contain betting advice and from then on he only rarely gave away free tips. he may well be a chancer overstating his inside knowledge, but it was a fascinating read at the time so it could be again