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They got nothing but love from the fans from the get go right until the end. Bruce hasn’t. I’m not saying he’s a good manager. His track record suggests otherwise, but also you can only work with that’s in front of you. His career could have gone another way if he’d been more patient but he chose to take jobs at shit clubs. Which eventually ruled him out of any big job by association. And now he’s here. I’m not going to say we’re a big club, we’re certainly not top 6 anymore, maybe not even top 8. But we’ve had nothing but failure as a club for my whole life at least. I hope for more, but I don’t think we’re entitled to it, not anymore. We’re a medium sized club with potential. That’s all. Rafa could have done great things but we all know what happened there. Mike took a 6 million a year gamble on him either keeping us up or getting us back first time of asking and then consolidate. Mission accomplished. Rafa wasn’t needed from that point on. I don’t think even Pardew got the stick Bruce has been given from the start. He clearly doesn’t deserve that. Also the squad Pardew had when we were 5th is light years ahead of the one we have now. So any comparisons to what we’re doing this season is totally unwarranted. Like someone pointed out before, we can’t have it both ways. We lose a match, “oh Bruce is a useless wanker, all his fault..” We win a match “oh he’s just using Rafa’s tactics” Pure negativity Oh gtf. Keegan, Robson and Rafa all came with some kind of reputation and pedigree and all treated the club and the fans with respect from the get go. Bruce came in with a piss poor record everywhere he'd been, threw his toys out the pram, told us we all should respect him and instead of showing anyone he understood the fans and the club he told us he was a Geordie and a fan going against everything he said when he was at Sunderland. He's an extension of Ashley, another lickspittle shill, here to do the bidding of his master and accept whatever shit sandwich is thrown at him. You come in under those circumstances then you lose all credibility from the start. Rafa talked of potential, of building something for the future, being able to work within a strict model and still bring success, Bruce came in and jizzed over a £40m flop forced into his hands. You earn respect and he's failed at every step and the more he demands it, the more he ostracizes himself. It's obvious to anyone who has eyes that this "football" is amongst some of the worst we've ever played, yes he's using Rafa's tactics but beyond defence first he's lost the plot, we're disjointed and scrappy going forward, we have no control in games, no fluidity in attack and no plan B. For all Rafa's negative tactics you could see a plan and we countered with speed, accuracy and precision, not this disjointed abortion we're forced to watch now. We're winning games because of the tenacity of the players, the never say die attitude and the belief that they're in it until the final whistle, not because of some tactical masterclass. What he said. Much more eloquently put than me.

No credit at all. You've said it yourself that it's similar to the 5th place season. The following season proved that we finished 5th in spite of Pardew, not because of him. Give over. Yeah Pardew was shit overall, but he deserved some credit for the season we finished 5th, as does Bruce for having a decent start to his time here. I'm sure the wheels will come off eventually (as they did with Pardew), but you can't say whenever we win, it is in spite of the manager. Yes you can when it’s true. Pardew deserves zero credit. The fella was a fraud and so is this guy. Bruce will soon be on the same scrapheap that Pardew finds himself on and rightly so. Time is up for the likes of them in footballing terms. Christ. Some right miserable cunts in here I’m anything but miserable, cheers. Plenty of revisionists though it seems. Strange.

No credit at all. You've said it yourself that it's similar to the 5th place season. The following season proved that we finished 5th in spite of Pardew, not because of him. Give over. Yeah Pardew was shit overall, but he deserved some credit for the season we finished 5th, as does Bruce for having a decent start to his time here. I'm sure the wheels will come off eventually (as they did with Pardew), but you can't say whenever we win, it is in spite of the manager. Yes you can when it’s true. Pardew deserves zero credit. The fella was a fraud and so is this guy. Bruce will soon be on the same scrapheap that Pardew finds himself on and rightly so. Time is up for the likes of them in footballing terms.

He deserves every bit of stick he gets And ‘charmers’ like Rafa and Keegan. Are you on drugs? Those two were as genuine and honest as they come with obvious ideals and morality. The very antithesis of fork-tongued ‘charmers’ like Pardew. Anyway, how’s Midhat?

We’ve done well to achieve safety. Job done. Mission accomplished. Onwards and upwards to the same again next season. Wonderful stuff.

WumBot 3000 How? or do you just enjoy being negative? AC changed the game. Don't know whats worse here sometimes, the double standards or the boring same old negativity. We're in a good run of form and it looks like it will be a comfortable season to stay up. Just enjoy it, its not how you would have wanted it but we are overachieving. You negative lot still log on here so you clearly care that much. Care about the club yeah. And it’s long term future as a sporting entity, absolutely. But this zombie version with Ashley as its overlord, hell no. A comfortable season to stay up? Fucking yay.

Onwards and upwards. Are you for real?

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Who’s that with?

Top trolling

You don’t have to leave here just because you’ve given up on the current Zombie version of the club. You’re a good poster man and can still vent your rage here. Bit concerned people like you keep leaving and we’ll be left with similar to the Facebook groups out there with loads of ‘Rafa Who??’ posts.

Wtf is he on about?

Christ, they’re all in tonight. He’s still shite

Bloody painful them

Horseshit. I’m beginning to think you are some kind of Russian influencing operation.

£40 million. I mean, where did they get that figure from? There’s def something badly dodgy about that transfer

This is a very different game to the one I grew up with

Hayden wins 100 Bruce points for that crunching tackle

Fuck. Of course, I totally forgot you could do this. Thanks Can’t stand Waddle.

What do you mean ‘fans’? You mean the people who see the bigger picture and after 10 years of Ashley are sick of the whole occupation of our club? i only see one Ashley supporter on this forum and it's covmag, desperately trying to pretend he isn't anarl. Never pretended to be an Ashley supporter, never will be, but I won’t ever hope we get beat , I just don’t get that. And thus the whole circus just rolls on

He literally was given the job because he's bang average (at best) Man I liked Wilder as well. British manager’s lunch club innit

Carroll starting. :lol:

We don’t NEED to win this, a draw would be a good result in truth, if you play the 40 point game we are on track. As ever, that’s the first target How exciting. 40 points and another year of safety

He’s a right chopper

What do you mean ‘fans’? You mean the people who see the bigger picture and after 10 years of Ashley are sick of the whole occupation of our club?