Jack Flash

If they thought they had a case they'd let it go to the panel. £1 million it is.

I hate these kind of posts but IF we do sell him (at any price) then I wont be renewing my season ticket next year.

We've been chasing him for ages and we've evidently made no progress. Time to move on.

Read the quotes again. He wants more money to play for us. Sounds like he's desperate to sign.

“But we won’t bring him to the club if he doesn’t want to be here. We’re not certainly going to force his hand.” Move on then? We seem to be wasting so much time on players who clearly don't want to sign for us.

DJ Campbell and Harewood probably scored more than all Tottenham's strikers did combined in the league. /guess

This will all be irrelevant when Ameobi/Lovenkrands are forced to start games.

Money is too important. The clubs would never agree that their players value matched exactly.

I don't think we've stopped looking for a striker because of Neil Taylor like. Looks like we did in January with Ireland tbf.

Everyone takes the bet then Ba gets injured before the Arsenal match

How did we do last season versus historic numbers of goals, any idea? Seemed an unusually free-scoring season to me. http://www.nufc.com/2011-12html/premiership-stats.html

We're short at the back and upfront with our friendlies starting in a few days. This can't be considered as anything other than slightly worrying.

He's currently second choice. Unacceptable. We're stronger up front since February, that much is true. 1 injury and we're back to what we know isn't good enough. He's third choice after Ba and Best. If the reports are true we're trying to sell Best.

Clearly they'll quote twitter only when it suits them.

He's currently second choice. Unacceptable. We're stronger up front since February, that much is true. 1 injury and we're back to what we know isn't good enough.

It's unforgivable if we're in a situation again where Ameobi is first choice. New strikers have been a huge priority for 7 months and he's currently second choice. One injury to our injury prone main striker and he's back in.

Ameobi starting a league game again for us is unforgivable. Any lingering support I have for those involved would be over.

That celebration against Spain is the best career move he ever made.

Everyone else demands millions for their players. We give ours away, basically. We made Andy Carroll the 8th most expensive player ever tbf, and most other outgoing deals have been good or very good deals for us. Pardew has basically said he wont be playing Routledge so that has knocked down the price somewhat.

The reality of that theory is that he didn't cost that much so we should have more money to improve other areas. It should be a win-win scenario.

Or just pay the £4.3 million and have them all? (I realise that isn't how it would work but the values are relevant as they're so differing)

Seen this in so many places, what's the problem with trying to spend and getting good players like Ferdinand, Shearer, Tino, Bellamy, Robert, Woodgate, Coloccini ? If Carr can find good players from cheap players just think what he could get spending a few quid. Exactly right. The last 2 years have been proof that we can speculate to accumulate and we can do it very well. I've seen nothing to suggest we're massively paying over the odds in any area in that time.

Pardew said the money would be reinvested out of the Carroll sale ,he was told by Llambias and thats the crux of the current debate that that promise was made and so far very little net spend of that money. I agree that "promise" was a mistake, but I think expecting that it actually meant we would spend £35m on transfer fees is taking it far too literally. It was also made in a pressure situation by a manager trying to defend a very unpopular sale. you're missing the point. spending none of it and then giving a list of excuses to the local press including a f***ing water pipe is a pretty clear indication of what these lot are about, and you're still not seeing it. How am I missing the point? You mean I'm not coming to the same conclusion as you. the conclusion i'm coming to is that they haven't spent any of it, i fail to see how you'd be too far away from that? I don't know exactly how much they've spent, I agree it is probably quite a small proportion. But that doesn't outrage me as much as it does some people, because I never thought it would all go on transfers in the first place. What concerns me is whether we are adding decent players to the squad, which I think we are. They have "spent" around £25 million of the Carroll money. Personally, I'll judge the spending on what I see on the pitch after August. Currently they've spent £300k in my book. Are you joking? Please tell me you are... We simply haven't "spent" £25 million. Most of it appears to be sitting in the bank on the off chance that we don't sell the players we've just "bought". Which is just as f***ing bad. They've used money from the £35 million to pay Tiote's wages for the next two seasons... The money is as good as spent. And that's where the "where is the rest of the income going?" question comes into it. The phrase "smoke and mirrors" is a very appropriate one. To see where the rest of the income is going, and has gone in previous seasons, look at the club's accounts. The previous income was paying for things this new, extra income is now paying for. Yes, and resulting in regular losses and increase in debt. I don't see how this is hard to grasp, if you're paying out more money than you earn and your earnings increase, you don't go spending all of the extra. Haven't people on here said we're breaking even or will break even in the very near future? With 2 or 3 high earners leaving in the next year they can't be far away from having no excuses left. All future tense though - we're not quite there yet This is where we'd need some ambition. We could finish well into the top half with a one or two ambitious signings.

Pardew said the money would be reinvested out of the Carroll sale ,he was told by Llambias and thats the crux of the current debate that that promise was made and so far very little net spend of that money. I agree that "promise" was a mistake, but I think expecting that it actually meant we would spend £35m on transfer fees is taking it far too literally. It was also made in a pressure situation by a manager trying to defend a very unpopular sale. you're missing the point. spending none of it and then giving a list of excuses to the local press including a f***ing water pipe is a pretty clear indication of what these lot are about, and you're still not seeing it. How am I missing the point? You mean I'm not coming to the same conclusion as you. the conclusion i'm coming to is that they haven't spent any of it, i fail to see how you'd be too far away from that? I don't know exactly how much they've spent, I agree it is probably quite a small proportion. But that doesn't outrage me as much as it does some people, because I never thought it would all go on transfers in the first place. What concerns me is whether we are adding decent players to the squad, which I think we are. They have "spent" around £25 million of the Carroll money. Personally, I'll judge the spending on what I see on the pitch after August. Currently they've spent £300k in my book. Are you joking? Please tell me you are... We simply haven't "spent" £25 million. Most of it appears to be sitting in the bank on the off chance that we don't sell the players we've just "bought". Which is just as f***ing bad. They've used money from the £35 million to pay Tiote's wages for the next two seasons... The money is as good as spent. And that's where the "where is the rest of the income going?" question comes into it. The phrase "smoke and mirrors" is a very appropriate one. To see where the rest of the income is going, and has gone in previous seasons, look at the club's accounts. The previous income was paying for things this new, extra income is now paying for. Yes, and resulting in regular losses and increase in debt. I don't see how this is hard to grasp, if you're paying out more money than you earn and your earnings increase, you don't go spending all of the extra. Haven't people on here said we're breaking even or will break even in the very near future? With 2 or 3 high earners leaving in the next year they can't be far away from having no excuses left.

Pardew said the money would be reinvested out of the Carroll sale ,he was told by Llambias and thats the crux of the current debate that that promise was made and so far very little net spend of that money. I agree that "promise" was a mistake, but I think expecting that it actually meant we would spend £35m on transfer fees is taking it far too literally. It was also made in a pressure situation by a manager trying to defend a very unpopular sale. you're missing the point. spending none of it and then giving a list of excuses to the local press including a f***ing water pipe is a pretty clear indication of what these lot are about, and you're still not seeing it. How am I missing the point? You mean I'm not coming to the same conclusion as you. the conclusion i'm coming to is that they haven't spent any of it, i fail to see how you'd be too far away from that? I don't know exactly how much they've spent, I agree it is probably quite a small proportion. But that doesn't outrage me as much as it does some people, because I never thought it would all go on transfers in the first place. What concerns me is whether we are adding decent players to the squad, which I think we are. They have "spent" around £25 million of the Carroll money. Personally, I'll judge the spending on what I see on the pitch after August. Currently they've spent £300k in my book. Are you joking? Please tell me you are... We simply haven't "spent" £25 million. Most of it appears to be sitting in the bank on the off chance that we don't sell the players we've just "bought". Which is just as f***ing bad. They've used money from the £35 million to pay Tiote's wages for the next two seasons... The money is as good as spent. And that's where the "where is the rest of the income going?" question comes into it. The phrase "smoke and mirrors" is a very appropriate one. To see where the rest of the income is going, and has gone in previous seasons, look at the club's accounts. The previous income was paying for things this new, extra income is now paying for.