Chicken Dancer

I think it’s fair ST holders get dibs - why should it be any other way really? However there is many fans who also had ST for 15 years + and packed in during the Ashley years who’ve been to every home game post-takeover, thus also ploughing money into the club.

 

Both things can be true. In our case, there is no real way to measure loyalty as those packing in done what they believed to be the right thing, as did those who stayed. The only thing I’d have changed about the whole ticketing for the final would be to either swap/merge period 5&6, and I say this as someone who has a ticket.

1 minute ago, NUFC91 said:

Alot of our fans can fuck off mind, fucking embarassing amount of fans left before clapping players off as they walked around pitch.

 

Makes me laugh when people say about Man UTd, Chelsea fans, we as fickle as anyone. Less than week ago got to first final in nearly 25 years. .what do people expect man.

 

Or the dick heads under Ashley who said all we want is club to compete..well today we did, got point and conceded first goal in ages....

shocking how many left when added time got announced. Them lot don’t deserve a Wembley ticket. West Ham fans quite rightly took the piss, it was shocking. 
 

Too many turning up expecting to win. 

3 minutes ago, Myleftboot said:

Halfway through the season and I’ve got an awful feeling teams are starting to suss us out.

Come on man. More often than not, every single team has a period over a season where they’re a bit flat. We’re having ours now and we aren’t losing, it’s a positive.

 

We are due to give someone a spanking soon. Keep the faith mate. We are going good. 

2 minutes ago, bowlingcrofty said:

I do find it horrendous that Alex Hurst and his mates Charlotte and Michael Martin are now the people the club turn to when they want fan views. Surprised pot 1 wasn’t people who have a True Faith podcast subscription and who have bought a TF Bruno T shirt   

 

 

 

Exactly, it’s a fucking shambles. The Trust are meant to represent their members not daft , fame-hungry Tories. Really winds me up 

4 minutes ago, nufcnick said:

Exactly, this stinks of people that didn’t stick around during the shit times now crying that they can’t get a ticket during the good times 

See, I completely reject that notion. Of course there would have been some folks wrapping it in because ‘we were shit’, but the vast majority packed in to initiate change more than anything else. 
 

If it was because we were shit, surely they would have packed in prior to the 2x Championship seasons?

 

I do understand what you’re saying though, but let’s not start the whole who is a better fan debate. 

I think ST holders quite rightly will always get dibs, but I know it’s frustrating being on the outside. Those that packed in (like me) when Bruce came in knew what we were letting go and the risks attached. However those just starting off on their NUFC journey are going to struggle, for sure.

 

Loyalty points is a completely different game though - that needs reformed. I would never advocate those with points, losing them - no chance. But there needs to be opportunities for ST holders (and members for that matter) to be able to build the points up by other means, if the away threshold will never fall to 0 again. How they do it, I don’t know. I also wish I knew the answer to stopping people buying to sell on for a point. I know some will argue it’s fairly rare, however there’s at least 3 supporters coaches in my area for away games that’s always offering tickets (basically the organiser has numerous linked accounts and just buys tickets each away day, thus earning someone a point). 
 

There may (and probably will) be a situation here at Wembley where somebody with say 26 points hasn’t done an away in 10 years or so, but gets priority. Yes I get that this person has points, but what about the next person who should have points only the club didn’t record them at that stage? Appreciate it’s entirely hypothetical. 
 

I say this as a Father to amazing kids and I really want them to be able to build their own profile so they they can get the opportunity at days out at cup finals in the future. 
 

Sadly I’ve just wasted 5 minutes of my time typing that, as whilst NUST keep their current stance, it ain’t changing. 

17 minutes ago, OCOCOL said:

Brian Blessed

 

Just now, OCOCOL said:

 

I hope it won't take the club too long to clock on to their standing among the wider fanbase and not the RGS / Church High old boy / girl network

Sadly I don’t think they ever got will. Wembley tickets was probably the first instance where they need to gauge opinion and the first thing they done was go to them 3 - they obviously think they represent the feelings of the fan base as a whole when it couldn’t be further from the truth. 
 

They obviously look at them as the mouthpiece of the fans. They should use True Faith instead… oh shit. It’s the same thing. 

10 minutes ago, TheDimpleboy said:

Anyone know if its possible that it will completely sell out on period 4 - or do all ballot periods (from 4 to 7) all have a set number of tickets allocated? 

 

Good question, although I doubt it will get to 4.

I didn't realise the Trust was just the opinion of 3 board members?

 

They have - and will always - put their own interests ahead of their members. I think we can all come to an agreement that the trust is an extension of True Faith and if you're in that click, you're sorted for life.

 

There's become a bit of a cult online since the takeover - (some of) those with ST & especially with lots of points talking down to other fans not in the fortunate position they are. Obviously they don't represent everyone, but it really is tiresome and frankly some of stuff you see is shocking. I'm also well aware that social media opinion should be taken with a pinch of salt, but I've had plenty of interaction with people in person who act the same way.

 

I sympathise with the club in this instance as they were never going to please everybody, but I do wish they would understand that the trust isn't representative of the fanbase and they would be wise to survey season ticket holders and members in the future for any potential changes they are considering.

I do think it's probably been as fair as possible, certainly from a selfish perspective as I've had it pretty much confirmed today I've got a ticket.

 

However the only thing I would suggest is a tad unfair is section 6 - I think that should be equal to 5 at the least. A minor issue with what they've done, but they were never able to win.

2 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

Theres more allocation than there is ST holders, so counting out those ST holders that wont go, if you have an ST and want a ticket you'll get one. 

 

Sadly not true, as our allocation published won't include the tickets dished out to corporate and hospitality. Probably would have been useful if the club did publish that, in fairness.

I'm now somewhat ridiculously terrified that there's a royal death or horrific weather that leads to the postponement of one of our games  

 

The mackems will probably ring a bomb scare to SJP this weekend or something.

 

Not ideal he misses the 3 league games either, mind. Great chance to pick up at least 7 points.

Surely he shouldn't play regardless? I know it's completely different given the hits they take, but read up on Tua Tagovailoa in the NFL. Scary shit.

It does seem incredibly fitting that two local lads sent us to the Semi and Final respectively. You could see Longstaff almost welling up in his post-match interview last night.

17 minutes ago, NUFC91 said:

As you know I've put this Trust and they keep saying they'll stick it out yo members

 

It's all they ever say. At the end of the day, the Trust are scared to rock the boat with the club, especially if it doesn't suit the board members. Like you say, WiFi is a higher priority for them.

 

Agree with everything you said - ideally there would be 2 standing/singing sections - SEC & L7 (next to away fans). Would allow the atmosphere to bounce round the ground a bit too.

 

I think we need to stop playing Hey Jude pre-match too, or at least turn it off and let the fans take over. Sounds incredibly cheesy imo and forced. Let the atmosphere build organically for games like last night.

 

Of course, it's basically impossible to create a fantastic atmosphere every games - people just aren't as up for it at 12:30 on a Saturday or 14:00 on a Sunday which I guess is fair enough, but safe standing would definitely improve it.

Was bouncing then when they scored completely flat. Think everyone was nervous, despite the lead. I agree though, no excuse. 
 

 

Voice has gone, heads gone. 
 

We deserve this lads and lasses. All them years. All them protests. All the pain. 
 

Take these moments all in with loved ones, special times. This one is for my late brother whose last game at St James was Liverpool in May 19. If only he could see us now. 

 

First Wembley appearance of many. Fucking come on. 

We've probably brought Gordon forward from the summer imo. Like others have touched on, we're incredibly thin - especially at CM - but we also have the benefit of no European football and no cup football (hopefully after 26th Feb..) with often a week between games.

 

I did think at the start of the window we may have twisted rather than stick, but Gordon immediately improves our options - whether from the bench or starting. Murphy has appeared in every league game I think, so that's an improvement straight away.

 

I understand the worry about Shelvey leaving but he was a high-earner at an age where this is probably his last decent move. He's only played 34 minutes this season so we aren't exactly going to miss him, and Gordon signing means we can push Willock/Joelinton back into midfield if there's an injury. Not ideal but it is what it is.

 

Getting £15m for Wood is just madness, a great deal for us. Isak takes his role in the squad - and more - so we've improved there too.

 

I actually think we're stronger than we were at the start of Jan given who's left given that Isak is now fit and Gordon improves the squad more than 2 aging bit-part players.

 

The one worry I do have is Wilson's injury record.

 

7/10 for me, moving to a 10 if we get a CM in.

Not sure where else to post, but in the event of qualifying for Europe, squad registration could be tricky (I think...)

 

You can name a 25 man squad, of which 8 must have been trained in the nation for 3 years between 15-21, and 4 who must be trained at the registering club for 3 years between 15-21. I think under-21 players don't need to be registered if they were at the club the previous season - this may be wrong.

 

The 8 will be a doddle but the 4... we have Longstaff, but assuming Dummett is away and Anderson doesn't need to be registered, I'm struggling. You can leave spaces in the squad to make up for not having enough homegrown, but not the best idea.

 

By the way this is purely from Football Manager knowledge and not much else  

 

1. Pope*

2. Karius

3. Gillespie*

4. Trippier*

5. Schar

6. Burn*

7. Botman

8. Lascelles*

9. Targett*

10. Manquillo

11. Bruno

12. Longstaff**

13. Willock*

14. Joelinton

15. Murphy*

16. Gordon*

17. Almiron

18. ASM

19. Isak

20. Wilson*

21. Ashby*

22. Krafth

 

Obviously there will be some of the above leaving (4 right-backs in there...) and signings in the summer, but something I'm sure the club have taken into account.

 

Yes I know I'm well ahead of myself here!

 

You can get 14/1 on 365 for Southampton to qualify for those who are shitting their pants.

We are going to give someone an almighty dicking soon. The chances we've missed over the last 2 games alone.

 

Either tonight or Saturday we will score at least 3 - preferably both!

Aye, it's the last remaining scar of the Ashley era now that the pigeon is gone.

 

I do hope they can find a way to extend mind. I think 60-65k would be ideal.

 

Didn't somebody post on here that the club had bought Barker and Stonehouse building along from the ground? Anyone any idea why/what came of it?

Was it not a relegation release clause that we triggered? That's the FM in me though, not sure of the facts.

I wish I could remove that feeling that I have before basically every game that we're somehow going to manage to fuck it up. 

 

My mind, body and & soul has been ingrained to expect failure for so long that it's finding it hard to get used to the new-Newcastle. although semi-finals are alien to me. Hopefully they become the norm over the next decade.

 

The bookies are never wrong...are they!? Early goal tonight and the fucking roof comes off. Unchanged team is my guess, Isak and Maxi if needed. 

 

Howay the Lads!

 

PS - Wilson will score tonight.