Tiresias

Sounds a bit of a mess hesitant to call anyone a bad guy here. Get clubs concern but also get Winks putting family first in that situation. Really feels like surely a better solution can be found

I'd take the xG version with a pinch of salt it tends to slightly inflate the dominance of teams that have the ball and press high and make teams like Forest look worse. Yes their position is inflated by Chris Wood clealry overpoerforming and that will impact it a bunch but no I don't think they have played like a lower midtable team and got lucky which is kinda what the xg implies. I think it's a slight flaw in xg that illustrates. I am not against xG, but I think this more illustrates it's limitations than Forest fluking every game. To clarify they are overperforming, but it's i guess the 'wildly' bit ought to bring a bit of skepticism to the stats

I love a good stat as much as the next man, but i still fucking trust my eyes. Forgetting the getting us up from the championship first attempt (by no means guaranteed, plenty clubs have sunk), but once he worked out his team that 3-4-3 with lejeune, lascelles schar at the back we were playing good stuff. After a tough first half of the season second half things had begun to click. I'm not going to engage overly with the troll, but the Rafa years were so much better than what was to follow, pull as many stats as you want, I watched those games and i watched us under bruce, I can tell the fucking difference.

I imagine Forest will invest in summer, but could disrupt the squad a bit whom clearly have been feeding off being 'underdogs' a bit. They could i guess do a leicester and drop right off but I think harsh to write off now. I wonder if a bunch of players will jump ship for better wages elsewhere. Their style of play does protect a lot of the players from doing the intense running our players do but then it is all about Elanga and the rest of them willing to sprint length of the pitch regularly with pace. I also think Wood is clearly overperforming, again maybe harsh but doubt he'll be quite as lethal again...but maybe I'm wrong! The owner whom has been much mocked seems to be more canny than people gave him credit and he is ambitious, has said he wants the club to stay at that level and if he is able to keep signing players of the quality they have been why not?

We're definitely after a right winger, if we bring one in that is going to score a lot more goals from that side it makes the striker issue slightly less pressing, it kinda depends if Howe thinks Osula is the long term answer. I wouldn't be against us getting some veteran journeyman on a short term deal as cover

I was listening to a podcast on this, and one person was arguing that people would change how they play against them next season, the other person asked how and seemed to suggest it's impossible to play against a low block as if it's some impossible to beat strategy. The first person quite reasonably said that if it wasn't beatable how come everyone doesn't play low block? It's clearly that the modern game with very attacking full backs does leave a lot of space for counter attacking teams and then when you get a pure one every now and again they do very well, see Leicester when they won. I'm always a bit surprised it doesn't happen more, but I think you need the right group of players who accept they are going to be spending most games camped in their own half of most games. If you get on a winning run like Forest did you get confidence and believe that's fine, if you don't it's very dispiriting. I think a lot of clubs are at an institutional level (hell I wonder if there is some pressure from Sky in terms of it as a product) resistant to playing overly 'negatively' to protect the brand but I don't think what Forest do is that unappealing at all, their attacks are fast and good to watch. But still, you need to just have a degree of patience and attentiveness to their threat in transition. I don't think they can be totally 'found out', it's not like every manager could have beaten them, they are hard to break down, and very good at taking their few chances, always going to get you plenty of points. The surprise is how much it has worked out, but that has been aided I think by the 'top' teams being pretty weak this season. Even Liverpool haven't looked a 'classic' side. The irony is Arsenal were all expecting to win this year and they tried to move to a more negative style of play and it's just meant they don't score as much as they should. If they had Chris Wood this season they'd probably still be in title race...

Saw a lot of positive comments from liverpool fans which somehow wound me up, I mean who goes out of their way to keep posting 'fair play' everywhere, in the end came across well patronising. Don't get me wrong prefer it to the demented sections of the arsenal fan base but liverpool are a weird lot... Slot was a class act about it too in fairness, just think its some weird competitive sportsmanship going on. Meanwhile they are cursing out a player fulfilling his contract having won everything with them over a long period of time

Are we sure it's not down to some infrastructure related issues like concerns of another 10k people getting to the ground from the police or something. Sounds a bit daft maybe

Seems to be happening more. Remember Toney doing fuck all for Brentford for half of last season while banging on constantly about where he wanted to play next. Would make me run away were at a club looking to recruit, especially considering Brentford sticking by him through his betting suspension which he never truly seemed particularly sorry for

Bruno wont stop swearing lol

Bruno

did they not think to put even a little bit of mic on the audience would like to hear them a bit

they probably cant believe they're still up there, bet osula dropped the trophy back stage and they're frantically trying to hammer it back into shape