Tiresias

Come on ref have a sense of humour

sub him off again in 2 minutes time then kick him in the face

Day ruined ffs.

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Get in!

wtf most obvious handball ever

Lost Clark way too easily

Rubbish, so open at the back again

appalling defending

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Close

Howay

Clark imo stabilised us at the back and really missed him when not there

There's such a rot at Sunderland it's easy to see them going down for a long while. Let's not forget though that it could be good for them in sense of clearing out the whole forest of deadwood they have and build something new. The thing is though it has been clear that there is more to it than just manager and players, they have paid players enough, they have gone through enough managers without any discernable change. there's something bigger wrong like Ashley for us and I dunno if they can turn it around.

I hope it's just the Messi thing. Cos he's so brilliant. Take him out and there's not many a likeable player in that side aside from Iniesta. Suarez and Busquets ffs. Also Suarez leaning into Nacho to create space for the shot - was excellent play. Messi is astonishing and after a poor game at Juve and maybe not the most sparking season i'm glad to see him do so well again. Iniesta is a magical player who sadly prolly is well past his best now. Otherwise, maybe they're not a likeable team, but maybe it's more that they are held up as purists and aren't that damns them. Regardless they're not saints, even if Real have been fairly cynical. It's a derby what do people expect?

Seems cheap, at least we're looking for creative types though, Shelvey has been disappointing overall in the championship imo.

I'm not saying that wasn't Real's plan but it's a derby and maybe this game they were worse at it but there's usually plenty from both sides. I enjoy barca as much as the next man but the worshiping at their feet as the can do no wrong gods of good football and of Real as just a bunch of dirty bastards (now Mou has gone) is kinda mad.

why on earth were 10 man real commiting so many men up top, a draw was ok for them.

terrible defending

Not so much impressive as finally at the age of 31 he's learnt not to get sent off every other match. Certainly calm headed he has to one of the best CBs in the world, but not going to applaud someone for not getting sent off a lot.

Seen plenty of Clasicos with both sides spending plenty of time kicking the other, normal derby match in other words. Often very overhyped this match, everyone just remembers the peak pep 5-0 dismantling and forgets all the scrappy ones since

Definite red

Customary Ramos red

ace thunderbastard