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Not sure even the Saudis would want to pay a manager that much

Allegri will have better offers like. Even if we do spend crazy amounts, you can't buy a whole new team in one window and it's still a project that will take 2 or 3 years at least

I think you either accept it or you don't, as soon as you start the discussion on morality then you begin from a losing position, as the negatives of the regime currently outweigh the positives. Trying to justify if or overtly celebrating it (please no headscarves ) is just painting us in a bad light. Is anyone justifying or celebrating human rights abuses ffs? What absolute nonsense. People are overtly celebrating the departure of the club's horrible owner to be replaced by extremely wealthy new owners. The two issues ARE separate and people will eventually have to come down off their high horses when the realisation of their hypocrisy sets in. You still talking about journalists here? I'm talking about people who are wagging their disapproving fingers at NUFC fans over this takeover, be they journalists, own fans or other clubs' fans. Suddenly internet people have moral issues with the Saudi government? Is the concern for the victims genuine or is it just a fashionable topic to pontificate on? If the concern is genuine what have these people done to put pressure on their own governments to stop actively aiding this regime? Why does it come as a surprise to you that people are more concerned with something they hold dear to their heart than something they don't? It's important to me that NUFC is something to be proud of. I think it's the most important factor for me. It hasn't been for some years, but it is in serious danger of being even less so under the prospective new owners given their past and present. I don't think I need to have a long history of campaigning against Saudi Arabia to feel that way. If my mother suddenly decides to marry a serial killer and I'm not happy about it, an argument of "well I didn't hear you complain when he married his last wife!" doesn't hold a great deal of water. So the reputation/perception of NUFC is more important to you than the death and suffering of those unfortunate enough to be within reach of the Saudi oppression? Is that a fair summation? Is the success of Newcastle United more important to you than the death and suffering of those unfortunate enough to be within the reach of the Saudi oppression? I haven't said that and I haven't even defended the Saudis man. I desperately want the club to be rid of Mike Ashley, and at the same time I hate that it's the Saudis who are looking likely to replace him. On a personal level, having the richest owners in world football doesn't excite me in the long run. Yeah we could win one or two trophies and celebrate them. But soon enough it would become everything I already hate about modern PL football. Incessant product saturation using the top brands in Super Sundays and Super Monday Night Football Pundit Wankfests. I only asked you that because it's a similar question to the one you asked Wullie. Agree on the rest. Man City to me are boring as sin in every way at the moment after the exciting first few years

You've missed out Allegri there

I think you either accept it or you don't, as soon as you start the discussion on morality then you begin from a losing position, as the negatives of the regime currently outweigh the positives. Trying to justify if or overtly celebrating it (please no headscarves ) is just painting us in a bad light. Is anyone justifying or celebrating human rights abuses ffs? What absolute nonsense. People are overtly celebrating the departure of the club's horrible owner to be replaced by extremely wealthy new owners. The two issues ARE separate and people will eventually have to come down off their high horses when the realisation of their hypocrisy sets in. You still talking about journalists here? I'm talking about people who are wagging their disapproving fingers at NUFC fans over this takeover, be they journalists, own fans or other clubs' fans. Suddenly internet people have moral issues with the Saudi government? Is the concern for the victims genuine or is it just a fashionable topic to pontificate on? If the concern is genuine what have these people done to put pressure on their own governments to stop actively aiding this regime? Why does it come as a surprise to you that people are more concerned with something they hold dear to their heart than something they don't? It's important to me that NUFC is something to be proud of. I think it's the most important factor for me. It hasn't been for some years, but it is in serious danger of being even less so under the prospective new owners given their past and present. I don't think I need to have a long history of campaigning against Saudi Arabia to feel that way. If my mother suddenly decides to marry a serial killer and I'm not happy about it, an argument of "well I didn't hear you complain when he married his last wife!" doesn't hold a great deal of water. So the reputation/perception of NUFC is more important to you than the death and suffering of those unfortunate enough to be within reach of the Saudi oppression? Is that a fair summation? Is the success of Newcastle United more important to you than the death and suffering of those unfortunate enough to be within the reach of the Saudi oppression?

Its perfectly fine to support the team, just accept that we are a propaganda tool for a horrific regime and don't try to deflect from that

Think he has been very critical, aye. Was critical about the furloughing thing when that happened too

That's a great reference

Who wrote it? The article is bang on

St James' is literally as good a location for a football stadium as possible, would be complete lunacy to move elsewhere

All this post has done is just show everyone that you've never been in the chat section tbh. There's quite literally a thread on the Saudi's that's been there since 2015 and likewise the U.S thread. Plenty on here put the graft in for political parties, organisations, charities, and in QuakesMag's case has even made documentaries about this sort of stuff. You're just showing your own ignorance by assuming this has only been brought up now tbh. Again though, framing not wanting the football club to be owned by literal murders isn't a PC bollocks like. It's just not. I've been in the chat section plenty in the past thank you very much. I'm far more aware of the atrocities committed by the Saudi regime than even the likes of QM. My point was regarding the emerging noises in the London press who are suddenly questioning the morality of NUFC fans for getting excited about a takeover of their club. These hypocrites never made a peep about the vicious Saudi regime until stories of this takeover began to come out. The Saudi regime, along with the American and British for that matter, have been committing atrocities for decades. These wankers don't mind all the killing but strongly oppose the takeover of a football club? You do realise they're football journalists, aye? They don't get paid to write about the atrocities committed by whatever country. However, when one of those countries takes over a football club, it becomes relevant to a football journalist. If they're football journalists then why get into political commentary? Why aren't they on Abramovich's case every year? What about the Al Nahyans? Come on man. This is a pitiful attempt by some people to show that they know/care about world affairs on the interwebs when in reality they know next to fuck all and have done next to fuck all about injustice. I'm not absolving the Saudis of anything. A quick search of my previous posts on them in the chat section will tell you exactly what I think of them (ahem kisearch). I'm just saying you can't go all up in arms because a football club is being bought when nowt is being said about these people or done to stop them carrying on in Yemen (and elsewhere). They get into political commentary when it is relevant to football like it is now. I don't read papers that often but Miguel Delaney for one has been consistent over the last few years calling out Man City's owners. Plenty is being said about them when they are bombing Yemen or whatever, just not by football journalists because it wasn't relevant to football at the time

All this post has done is just show everyone that you've never been in the chat section tbh. There's quite literally a thread on the Saudi's that's been there since 2015 and likewise the U.S thread. Plenty on here put the graft in for political parties, organisations, charities, and in QuakesMag's case has even made documentaries about this sort of stuff. You're just showing your own ignorance by assuming this has only been brought up now tbh. Again though, framing not wanting the football club to be owned by literal murders isn't a PC bollocks like. It's just not. I've been in the chat section plenty in the past thank you very much. I'm far more aware of the atrocities committed by the Saudi regime than even the likes of QM. My point was regarding the emerging noises in the London press who are suddenly questioning the morality of NUFC fans for getting excited about a takeover of their club. These hypocrites never made a peep about the vicious Saudi regime until stories of this takeover began to come out. The Saudi regime, along with the American and British for that matter, have been committing atrocities for decades. These wankers don't mind all the killing but strongly oppose the takeover of a football club? You do realise they're football journalists, aye? They don't get paid to write about the atrocities committed by whatever country. However, when one of those countries takes over a football club, it becomes relevant to a football journalist.

Presume its just because the pubs aren't open so it has to be cans to celebrate

For the millionth time there's a difference between private investors from China/USA and Government investment from the Saudis

So that’s all that matters in the world then? Shallow as f*** You calling me shallow as f***? That's pot calling kettle. :lol: This is an NUFC section in a forum, why would people be discussing those. You must be a complete moron if you think people should be discussing those in an football section. So but murdering thousands is ok as long as they don’t buy Newcastle isn’t shallow? By the same token is it ok to murder thousands because you buy Newcastle?

Notoriously forthright, Saudi Arabian billionaires. We'll probably get a glitzy amazon documentary as part of the sportswashing tbf

So that’s all that matters in the world then? Shallow as f*** People are talking about Saudi now because they are about to buy our club. If the Chinese government were about to buy our club then we would have similar issues and discussions on here. By the way there was a thread on here about the atrocities the Saudi Arabian government were committing long before this takeover

30 stone 40 years old Jim down the pub "I'd get 10 goals a season playing for Real Madrid"

Yes

I'd err on innocent until proven guilty at the moment mind

Agree

The US government don't own sports teams No they dont they just murder their prisoners. Which has absolutely no relevance here until Trump lodges a bid for us So , will you still be attending matches or will you stop going ? I was actually planning a trip over with mates in May before this all happened, and probably will when this is all over. I've consistently said that fans have every right to support the club. Its defending the Saudi's or the "hey what about America, hey what about Sheffield Utd., all the journos are just jealous" Saudi flag waving element I take issue with

The US government don't own sports teams No they dont they just murder their prisoners. Which has absolutely no relevance here until Trump lodges a bid for us

There's a difference between private companies and governments