triggs

Boring but given we're usually 2 or 3 down at this point I'm okay with it

Poor by Lascelles, although Ayew played for it

Cisse's been really good

Cisse putting their back four under good pressure

Promising start. Come on to fuck

Been good so far IMO

Mbemba's passing is gone to shite

Tune

McClaren never would put out that team though, no chance he'd have the balls to drop Shelvey

Remind me what Colback offers? He's as awful defensively as Shelvey and doesn't offer any creativity, which when he's interested, as he would be today, Shelvey does. He really isn't as bad defensively. Not even near. He doesn't run like a maniac up the field and leave a massive space in midfield about 15 times a game for a start He also doesn't win a tackle, like Shelvey doesn't. If anything, Colback gives away more free kicks in dangerous positions. Here's hoping im proved wrong but I think its a major mistake. He didn't win many but more than Shelvey, he's also quicker than Shelvey. Shelvey gives away bad free kicks as well like, although not as many

Remind me what Colback offers? He's as awful defensively as Shelvey and doesn't offer any creativity, which when he's interested, as he would be today, Shelvey does. He really isn't as bad defensively. Not even near. He doesn't run like a maniac up the field and leave a massive space in midfield about 15 times a game for a start

Mitro has done nothing bar that Norwich game since Rafa came in like. Don't know why people are so surprised/unhappy

It won't be Cisse's fault if/when Wijnaldum barely touches the ball for 90 minutes again

Probably not as bad as them on the face of it but it's more his fault that we are so poor defensively than it is theirs and obviously Rafa is trying to focus on the defensive side of things today

Shelvey is probably the worst midfielder defensively I've ever seen. Don't mind that one at all

More to do with him being poor bar the half an hour against Norwich but should still be starting ahead of Gini

Wish he'd drop Gini for Mitro. Shelvey is an absolute liability in midfield like so don't mind that

He doesn't have much talent at all like. He looks good sometimes because of his physicality, his actual skill level is poor. I've said this before but I think people overrate his ability and underrate his work rate

He couldn't throw it anyway even if he tried so its a ridiculous suggestion

Aye, even if Guardiola wanted them to lose which is utterly mental, a coach not giving a fuck is only going to make the likes of Muller, Lahm, Neuer etc. even more mad to win. I'd love to see Guardiola try to tell Thomas fucking Muller not to try in a Champions League Final. He'd end up with a broken jaw

If Liverpool can get a draw at Dortmund and then win against all the odds at home they'll beat Villareal, no bother. A Spanish team in Europe is always difficult these days, think they'll beat Liverpool

Madrid final IMO

Great stuff. Disappointing that the effort he put in last year in keeping us up is going to waste but what a hero

If he can be debated as the best ever, and he can be, he's not dropping past 2nd. Messi and Ronaldo are the two best players to ever play this game. The likes of Cruyff, Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Best, etc. are fighting it out for #3. Nobody really puts Ronaldo in the best ever conversation. He's an utterly outstanding footballer but I think a lot of older people would laugh at putting him ahead of Pele and Maradona