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What has he said that has actually been true that couldn't be achieved through guesswork?

Out of interest who has an opinion of what the next striker trend will be. 80/90 was generally 2 up front big man little man combo, then 00/10/20 single guy supported by to wide forwards(pretty much a Mourinho creation) Can see it going to 3 out and out strikers when a decent team has some success with it

Probably what made him one of the best. Plenty good strikers go crap when they lose a bit of pace and don't try to change...for all his faults even Owen tried to change to fit Keegan's system, just didn't have the desire to see it through

Hey they're on the map Just like Pennywell, Hilton, and Roker

Hey they're on the map Just like Pennywell, Hilton, and Roker

https://www.planetfootball.com/nostalgia/lee-dixon-on-alan-shearers-dark-arts-i-thought-im-not-going-near-him/ Who's the closest in modern times? Can't think of a single player who could do the long range stuff, tap-ins, free kicks, headers, and assists while being a leader and terrify defenders at the same time. Kane at a stretch, but don't remember him getting too many spectacular ones like Shearer had C. Ronaldo at a push, but he was never a great leader and always about himself.

This...it's the intangibles they'd get back through better reputation and perception. Qatar did the same with PSG. Really doubt Qatar have made any money directly, from them, but they've got a hell of a lot more companies looking to invest with them now than they did when they were just sitting in the desert digging up oil

It will absolutely have an effect, like the thread states, things like this effect future commercial deals. A company can easily say we aren't prepared to give you as much money as last time because your (PL) brand has been negatively effected and we're unsure about being associated with that. That hits the PL hard and I'm sure masters would not want to be getting phonecalls from the commercial director asking what the fuck is going on. Even so, they can't be seen to passing this purely based on fans tweeting corruption messages. I think they're just finding a water-tight reason to fail it now (or at least say why it would fail if PIF hadn't withdrawn) Still think they're just going to blank it till it goes away. Obviously feeling some pressure due to the Sky Twitter stuff, but that's not a direct acknowledgement. All that says to me is they don't want people paying attention to it. For all the fan pressure, surely the consortium could put on a lot more pressure as that would be picked up by the whole media

This. I think he's a tool, but is choosing to put himself in firing line

They don't have to, but can you imagine the reaction we'd be seeing if it was Man U/Tottenham/Arsenal that PIF were trying to buy. It would never be off the Skysports front page, and Masters would have been hauled up before a Parliamentary Comittee already to explain

Got him on LinkedIn. Yes he may be shameless self promoting cock, but away from NUFC he's actually very good at what he does, even if it is just a Sayers book every 6 months. There's no doubt he's a good at promotion, the issue many fans have is that he's become the self defacto fans spokesman. Issue is that our fans have allowed him to. Those that speak the loudest are heard, even if they're talking balls. TBF the NUST could do with someone like him, who isn't afraid to embarrass themselves in public, as long as they are articulate and putting across the right message. His intentions are good, just doesn't have the ability to deliver when it comes to a whole fan-base. Promoting some so called Newcastle gangsters, and the odd boxing match is very different to speaking for thousands

Got him on LinkedIn. Yes he may be shameless self promoting cock, but away from NUFC he's actually very good at what he does, even if it is just a Sayers book every 6 months.

It's amazing that all this debate could just go away if PL had any bottle and made a simple 1 line statement

Private or not, you cannot change the agreed contractual obligations of either side after the process has begun, unless agreed by both sides. The PL, even as a private company, will have to have followed their own rules by the letter as this is contractually agreed between 2 parties. If the consortium feel there is any grey area in the PLs actions during this test which has prevented a purchase, caused financial loss, not just the deposit but the costs of an on going investigation and legal representation then they have a case to make. Happens all the time. Plus neither PIF nor Ashley had contracts with PL. Just with each other Firstly, how do you know that? Secondly, I would imagine that for the purposes of contract law the PL's rules are the terms of a contract between the club/proposed owners and the PL. Just a guess, but I've not seen any reports anywhere that you have to pay to take the OD test, or in fact entering in to the test forms a contract

Work it out in weeks and it looks more relevant to football. Less than 2K a week, very impactful considering they were paying Catts 25K per week until recently. Your point's still relevant though...it would have to be a very decent part time job to pull that in.

Private or not, you cannot change the agreed contractual obligations of either side after the process has begun, unless agreed by both sides. The PL, even as a private company, will have to have followed their own rules by the letter as this is contractually agreed between 2 parties. If the consortium feel there is any grey area in the PLs actions during this test which has prevented a purchase, caused financial loss, not just the deposit but the costs of an on going investigation and legal representation then they have a case to make. Happens all the time. Plus neither PIF nor Ashley had contracts with PL. Just with each other Imagine taking a driving test. You've prepped for it, fully ready, and a week before the DVLA decides to change the criteria. It's TS, and you certainly couldn't sue them for it if you failed Yeah but they couldn't change it while you are in the middle of the exam. Yeah just realised it was a stupid analogy

Private or not, you cannot change the agreed contractual obligations of either side after the process has begun, unless agreed by both sides. The PL, even as a private company, will have to have followed their own rules by the letter as this is contractually agreed between 2 parties. If the consortium feel there is any grey area in the PLs actions during this test which has prevented a purchase, caused financial loss, not just the deposit but the costs of an on going investigation and legal representation then they have a case to make. Happens all the time. Plus neither PIF nor Ashley had contracts with PL. Just with each other Imagine taking a driving test. You've prepped for it, fully ready, and a week before the DVLA decides to change the criteria. It's TS, and you certainly couldn't sue them for it if you failed EDIT. I wish to retract this as its not the same thing at all, as you probably could sue if the conditions changed during the test. However, even if you won, you'd still have to re-take the new one

Private or not, you cannot change the agreed contractual obligations of either side after the process has begun, unless agreed by both sides. The PL, even as a private company, will have to have followed their own rules by the letter as this is contractually agreed between 2 parties. If the consortium feel there is any grey area in the PLs actions during this test which has prevented a purchase, caused financial loss, not just the deposit but the costs of an on going investigation and legal representation then they have a case to make. Happens all the time. Plus neither PIF nor Ashley had contracts with PL. Just with each other

It's the legal battles where I feel you may be misleading yourself. I think we all want to believe that if it gets rejected, PIF will spend millions taking them to the cleaners but i've yet to hear anyone put forward anything that suggests that they'd have any kind of strong case, if any case at all. I think someone yesterday suggested only MA would have a legal angle, if he felt compelled to go down that route. Whether that's right I don't know but in basic terms, if feels like if it gets rejected because of the PL's own test, rather any kind of UK law, then they'll be able to back that up. I just don't see this going legal. I may be completely wrong but I would imagine that the matter falls under the remit of contract law. The O&D test unequivocally states that confirmation will be given within five working days, the PL is in breach of that element of the rules and that has caused the consortium to lose its £17m deposit (which would have been refunded if the PL had issued a refusal). So if it does go to court it will be so they can get the deposit/damages/costs back. Can't see it forcing them to approve

Legal stuff 'might' only start once this has been rejected. And that will probably PIF trying to get their deposit back only First there has to be a decision made either way. Unless I'm wrong, the PL is not a publicly listed company? I very much doubt it's possible to sue a private company for breaking their own rules, unless someone has been physically injured due to them breaking them. More than likely the PL are probably sitting re-writing the test right now, and will come out with something like this "Following a comprehensive review of the OD Test for Football club ownership, we have announced the following changes which will apply retrospectively from January this year"....changes which will actively prevent PIF involvement. Or they'll just keep quiet and hope it goes away. After the external pressure over the last week, any self respecting company would have issued a response or even an acknowledgement

Nails it. The PL don't appear to have applied the test in the spirit in which it was drawn up at all. Of course they haven't. They've seen that a Newcastle challenging will drop their income from one of the 'big' clubs for a few years until NUFC generates as much for them as the top 6 which obviously won't happen immediately, and they are terrified of having that hole in their finances. TO be clear, say it went through, and we got in to Europa/Champions league next year, we're still not as much of a draw as the usual suspects, and that impacts them. A few years of sustained challenging would be needed to plug the gap

A delightful Wales kit Don't ever recall Liverpool having any blue on their shirts. Can't imagine that will be too popular Sure they've had an away top with a simar colour blue/green on it? Could be mistaken though. Sure they had a greenish away kit some time in mid-90s. EDIT. They've had a lot of green away kits. Must be similar to our blue/maroon fascination

A delightful Wales kit Don't ever recall Liverpool having any blue on their shirts. Can't imagine that will be too popular That's green. I'd give you teal or turquoise at a push. Bad screen. Either way, where's that come from? Is there some significance to the green/turquoise? Some reference to last league win or something?

Thank the lord Puma didn't use that template for us. Rank

Looks like a Primark teeshirt