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It should be for us no? How many fans are missing out from watching us? Also our owners wealth and ambition should mean all issues can be overcome without issue.

Listening to the athletic podcast and they are discussing man united stadiums and sir rats grand plans had me wondering why are we so slow? Our owners have been in place much longer and yet besides a few comments patient lip service and a “feasibility study” we’ve heard nothing more about it’s been rather quiet. Do we assume it’s not a priority? What’s everyone’s thoughts

Basically, the big teams managed to have the cake and eat it as well. Domestically the inflated the game to a point whereby it made sense for those less well off to be on the gravy train rather than compete. Now they are satisfied they’ve slammed the breaks and made competition a joke by limiting it in the extreme. and on the continent despite them trying to run away and form a new cartel which they had even more control over they still managed to extract maximum value from the incumbent. Look how much we got paid vs Manchester United for example for our CL games. The big boys have it all stitched up, it’s quite pointless to be frank. Clubs closed.

If I’m them absolutely, they can manage his minutes much more effectively than we have which has been the biggest issue he’s faced. We’ve rushed him back early and then ran him in to the ground. Let’s hope he’s happy to stay and we actually build around him.

You’re high on fairy dust clubs current FFP issues are a bit of pinch situation, they have massive revenues so any easing benefits them massively.

Saudi won’t be bailing out the transfer market this summer according to Bloomberg.

His injuries tend to be niggles which are clearly aggravated by poor squad management. If we look at his goals per minute over the last 2 season he’s an elite forward and one of the best in the world. That’s playing in a team which doesn’t play to his strengths. he’s definitely worth more than 100m and even then I wouldn’t sell as long as he’s happy to stay. now if I’m Arsenal I’m buying him at all costs this summer.

Naaa Isak will have a lot of suitors. Players like him are gold dust.

Absolutely, although I’m not sure an expansion can get us there, they will have to rejig the ground around to incorporate more corporate stuff. FMV really kills us commercially though, only so much big marketing dollars to go around why would you sponsor us if you can Liverpool for a bit more? They have far more reach than us.

That’s just drivel tbh, charges have been brought against city. As for Chelsea charges will be brought next year if they can’t sell enough players ala forest. I know it’s twitter but the conspiracy theories should at least try and be accurate.

Please don’t expect the EPL to follow the sanctions laid out by Uefa. We’ve seen with Everton they want financial rule breakers to be dealt with severely.

Comparing with Liverpool isn’t the greatest argument for moving tbh.

As per the Athletic the club expect to go in to this window without a DOF.

Won silverware with Roma if I’m not wrong. Point being he’s a genuine legend and a massive name; of course a small section of the fanbase would be thinking he’d be a good appointment

Obviously I want is to keep Eddie and for him to push on but people fancying Mourinho shouldn’t be surprising given he’s won practically everything in the game.

Im delighted they don’t, let’s keep him in that case.

Err, only Villa have ambitious owners as much as ours. Maybe forest. Everton are almost Bankrupt and Chinese invest in football is over. You need 14 clubs votes change the rules, and I have 4 clubs who may break the status quo. (Forest is a push imo, I doubt the owner has the wealth to truly compete with the big boys). It’s understood city abstained from the vote.

City abstained from what I read. They already have the highest revenue (lol) so these rules have no impact on them.

As I’ve written about at length, the other shareholders don’t have any incentive to loosen the rules, our one vote doesn’t count for much.

They’ve tightened these rules last week. Why would they be suddenly gone? It doesn’t make sense. I understand people want to be optimistic and such but as long as the rules are tied to revenue which we are severely limited in how we can increase it we have little hope.

As long as the rules are tied to Revenue and our revenues are limited by related party rules we are scrweed. The framework which is known is already enough to know this.

No reason for these numbers not to be accurate given its public information. In my mind for us, our best case scenario now is becoming an A Madrid who've been successful way beyond what can be imagined so I went to look up the numbers for them: All figures in M;s and euros: Financial year: 2021/22, revenue: 372.24 Financial year: 2020/21, revenue: 345.92 Financial year: 2019/20, revenue: 322.00 Financial year: 2018/19, revenue: 368.00 Financial year: 2017/18, revenue: 304.00 Financial year: 2016/17, revenue: 273.00 Financial year: 2015/16, revenue: 229.00 Financial year: 2014/15, revenue: 187.00 Financial year: 2013/14, revenue: 170.00 Financial year: 2012/13, revenue: 120.00 Financial year: 2011/12, revenue: 108.00 Financial year: 2010/11, revenue: 100.00 Financial year: 2009/10, revenue: 125.00 Financial year: 2008/09, revenue: 105.00 And this to be is worrying and really shows how fucked we are, we are already close to the revenue they have in a much more competitive league, as a good measuring stick, lets take a look at the massivly mismanaged club known as Bara: 2021/22: 638.00 2020/21: 582.00 2019/20: 713.00 2018/19: 841.00 2017/18: 690.00 2016/17: 648.00 2015/16: 620.00 2014/15: 561.00 2013/14: 485.00 2012/13: 483.00 2011/12: 483.00 2010/11: 451.00 2009/10: 398.00 2008/09: 366.00 2007/08: 309.00 2006/07: 290.00 2005/06: 259.00 So basically, the gap never closed despite barca being run by a bunch of clowns and A, Madrid being really succesfuly. Basically we might be able to to challenge but it wont be sustainable.

Haha your welcome, not sure it’s knowledge more common sense mind. I know the predictions are bleak and I wish they weren’t. Thinking about it makes me want to just give up on football tbh, never imagined me either feeling that way, even during Ashley I still loved the game but what’s happening now is even more egregious, we had hope he’d fuck off and we’d be able to compete again, now that hope has been taken away.

Sorry, I think it’s real important us as fans understand what’s going on. I’m sure you’d rather get fucked knowingly rather than unknowingly and if we do nought the ones who are getting fucked as us fans, nobody else.

Absolutely, and these teams are always looking over the shoulder to see who’s coming behind them, once you understand this you realise why they always vote for these rules. They know they aren’t competing with Manchester United, they are competing with teams who are actually bigger than them but in the championship, so if we rules which stop them from growing whilst we maintain both a financial and competitive advantage it would take a massive fuck up for us to lose our spot on the gravy train. If your Steve parish Palaces valuation going up YOY by remaining in the league is far more enticing then loosening rules and creating more competition for yourself. Capitalism devours all, why would football be an exception?