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Good to see Neville and Carra really breakdown what i've been complaining about all night. Our non existent defensive system and them stupid direct balls which are fucking aimless

Not really.... and they wasn't fantastic in the first half either. They looked good because we allowed them to be and they looked bad in the 2nd half because we didn't allow them to play. The same could be said vice versa tbf, but the point is let a passing team play and your asking for trouble put them under pressure and they won't like it. As the old saying goes..... any team can look good if the opposition allows them to be. Mole, we couldn't have gifted you a way back into the game any more - just like us being 3-0 was in no small part due to your total lack of defending. Beren's nailed it perfectly - we took our foot off the gas, ground to a halt, got out the car and went for a walk. It was farcical. I agree you took your foot of the gas but i still think the main reason we got back into the game is we stopped sitting deep and allowing you to come at us in droves. Its clearly not an effective way to play against you or any other decent outfit, i suppose its easy to say we put you under pressure and squeezed the midfield a lot more of course its a combination of all these things. I just don't believe you would have been 3-0 up at half time if we started the game by squeezing the midfield and nullifying the effectiveness of Barry, Barkley etc etc. My concern is we will just go back to sitting deep with zero intensity and i will sighing all over again. Pardew doesn't learn for some reason. One of the best games we've had under him is when we dominated Man U at SJP. We squeezed the midfield pressed as a team and didn't give them any time on the ball but we rarely see it. Sadly no one in the media ever calls football managers to account for bad tactical decisions.

He was ineffective tonight but I didn't think he was garbage as such. Just like last season, he was the only outlet. Moving Remy into the middle put all the pressure back onto Hatem; they doubled-up on him and countered him easily. Just woeful tactics from Pardew, as usual. (Plus Seamus Coleman had an absolutely sensational performance - he was man of the match by a distance, for all Sky's ejaculating over Lukaku.) the excuses people will make for hba a crap game is a crap game, and he had one. And the one before that. It's really myopic to look at individual player performances in isolation from context unless they are outstandingly bad - which he wasn't. The deck was stacked against him from the get go, tonight. If he'd been on top, top form - he might have got better joy out of Coleman, but that doesn't mean the level he was at was 'garbage'. The team's plan was garbage, and he was spearheading the horrendous plan sadly - and is now taking the flak for it. This: He would have faired much better against baines than coleman.

The only reason Everton scored 3 goals in the first half was because we started with the car turned off and couldn't even find the keys. I mean which of their goals wasn't down to a comedy of errors?, every f***ing one was. I agree to some extent, but the difference is that was when the game was still (in theory anyway ) a competitive match and that was our level that we were bringing to the table. I think that first half was more inline with how we usually play in comparison to Everton's second half.

His distribution is just too poor to be playing at this level sadly. Even when he's under no pressure he still lumps it. I know the movement in front of him is terrible but he's like a race horse with blinkers he can knock a simple ball to our full backs. and another indictment on Pardew is how poor our off the ball movement has been under Pardew. 3 years and we are no further forward than the day he took over. Dont get me wrong, he is woeful. But by his standards i thought he did quite well. Hard to call mate. Everton we're relaxing the entire time he was on the pitch.

They did but we pressed them, amazing that a passing team doesn't like being pressed. Sitting back in the first half killed us, letting them play. And Pardew doesn't deserve credit for getting us to do what we should have done from the 1st whistle. Bimpy your spot on. The way we defend makes no sense. We don't press We don't get tight We aren't compact It's so f***ing wishy washy, the players don't have a f***ing clue what they are meant to do Agree,it's the total turnaround from what we did so very well two seasons ago that helped us finish 5th.So what's went wrong? I can only assume the players get sick of his training methods. People may disagree with me here but i just don't think they respect him he's too soft on the players for me. Letting Colo fuck off back to Argentina whilst he was out injured, same with Ben arfa who was being treated in France. Some will say this is good man management for me it's giving players a free holiday and will breed resentment from the other members of the team.

His distribution is just too poor to be playing at this level sadly. Even when he's under no pressure he still lumps it. I know the movement in front of him is terrible but he's like a race horse with blinkers he can knock a simple ball to our full backs. and another indictment on Pardew is how poor our off the ball movement has been under Pardew. 3 years and we are no further forward than the day he took over.

They did but we pressed them, amazing that a passing team doesn't like being pressed. Sitting back in the first half killed us, letting them play. And Pardew doesn't deserve credit for getting us to do what we should have done from the 1st whistle. Bimpy your spot on. The way we defend makes no sense. We don't press We don't get tight We aren't compact It's so f***ing wishy washy, the players don't have a f***ing clue what they are meant to do It's like we make it up as we go along. It's been said by so many on here but it's true. We lack a pattern, a identity as a team. And after 3 years here Pardew will never find it and should be ashamed he hasn't tbh. And yet some still think he'll turn it around, it's baffling. This you get the feeling over clubs are going places, they have managers with a clear idea of what they want to achieve and how they do it. We have a blagger who just guesses his way through each game.

They did but we pressed them, amazing that a passing team doesn't like being pressed. Sitting back in the first half killed us, letting them play. And Pardew doesn't deserve credit for getting us to do what we should have done from the 1st whistle. Bimpy your spot on. The way we defend makes no sense. We don't press We don't get tight We aren't compact It's so fucking wishy washy, the players don't have a fucking clue what they are meant to do

It's the mentality of the man Ian, He plays our best player out of position to cover off their left back ffs. If someone is negative all of the time it starts to rub off and this is why we've seen every single player we've bought under Pardew go backwards.

Has he not changed the second half round? I forgot he only gets the blame for s***. Never credit for the smallest of positives. We are up the creek without a paddle man. Open your eyes.

1 decent half isn't good enough. Cracks papered over once again! meanwhile we are 16th in the table with some tough fixtures coming up.

What clearly need are more players like Steven 'Old Reliable' Taylor and Shola 'Heart of a Lion' Ameobi. This had me dying off laughter

Exactly we'll still lose and people will praise him

second half pulled him out of the s***. Dat revival. That 1 goal revival! doesn't bring any redemption in my eyes.

He's one of our fastest players? Not surprised to see him looking lost when he's played on the flanks though...

It's odd how players look better when they're signed from English football. It's odd that we can't afford Barkley too. It's all relative, maybe we can afford Karl Henry? or Catts?

Didn't baines get a booking early doors? Why haven't we tested his metal?

What free weight exercises can help that anyway? We just need to stop targeting players from a second-rate league that nobody but us goes anywhere near. I'll reserve judgement on them until I see them under a proper manager. I'm also pretty sure everyone was excited when we bought them too....

On the wing he gives you nowt but graft. When he comes further infield he's a threat. And lets be honest Pardew only played him tonight for his graft.

I think they've been given a bollocking at HT and rightly so. but it means nothing if we don't get anything out of the game. They clearly don't respect him

a night in Liverpool does that to grown folk though

Thought Cabaye was shit lads?

It actually did look like that. Ashley looks furious mind.

Moussa on the right hand side. Back to playing with 10 men. Pardew is clueless, I hope this leads to his demise I can't put up with this much longer.