Bimpy474

The early 80's weren't much cop and 88 through till KK in 92 was a bad time (culminating in the playoff defeat to the scum) but we've never ever been this DELIBERATELY useless before. This is the worst era i've ever known, Rafa apart, and scarily it's about to get worse. Yeah that is true and terrible to know. If our fanbase had more balls and intelligence, it wouldn't have to be this way. There's a small percentage of them that I feel for and don't criticize for wanting to still go. Talking about the old timers who don't have many years left and like to see the top class opposition players maybe. A lot of the rest are generally speaking a bit thick with regards to the bigger picture and some, the absolute bottom 10% of the food chain basically. We seem to have more than most of this type "Whey aye, ah'll never stop gannin lyke, nee chance man, Ashley'll neva stop me. The clerb needs we man, noo more than eva". I think the fat spiteful bastard has long since figured this out and knows all too well what he can get away with. Yeah, you would hope the last few weeks might have had an effect on sheep but i doubt it.

i think it's the opposite, the 3 years of rafa were 3 years of professionalism and competence at every level of the club even when working to a shitty set of restrictions as he was he's shown us what the club is and how it should be run and there's no going back now, rafa has changed everything Yeah you put it better, that's what i was getting at. To have such a pro in Rafa shows just how badly we're run without such a man in charge.

The early 80's weren't much cop and 88 through till KK in 92 was a bad time (culminating in the playoff defeat to the scum) but we've never ever been this DELIBERATELY useless before. This is the worst era i've ever known, Rafa apart, and scarily it's about to get worse. Yeah that is true and terrible to know.

Even under Pardew, it didn't seem even under JFK it was this bad. This is on another level of shambles, maybe the 3 years of Rafa has faded past mess as not so bad, but by god it's taken some doing in just one month.

I think it's become clear Ashley thinks any old manager can do what Rafa did, despite that being obvious to anyone with a brain that's nonsense. Leaving our club with no real senior management above the football team in just Charnley, because he doesn't want any dissenting voices you get this utter mess. Same goes with players in this idiots brain, well we pay them a fortune don't we ? I mean Colback gets £30,000 a week and that's a lot. He's going to find out just how good Rafa was very soon. You know what though ? I don't think he'll even care, in his idiotic brain he'll think he's right.

Maybe his BBC contract doesn't let him go that far, while he can be a bit biased about us on MOTD, maybe it doesn't let him criticize Ashley or the club in as far as telling fans to boycott, no idea like just thinking out loud.

Says more about us than it does them like.

You utter tit Fair play mind

I think we are Not everyone just the good ones True, even more fucked then aren't we ?

I think we are

Hilarious all round “You fuck off” when Shola starts I creased at that :lol:

That's us fucked then

I actually don't think he did, he just wanted Rafa to bow to his demands and be another of his little lackies, and Rafa was quite rightly having none of it. Rafa saw the club and it's fans, the potential of it all as more than a cash cow for Ashley to bleed dry. As always Ashley know the price of everything but the value of absolutely nothing. Rafa made it clear to him the terms under which he was prepared to stay, and Ashley also made it clear through his pals in the press that he wasn't prepared to bend his transfer policy for anybody. That is the same as saying these are the terms, either sign the contract or fuck off. If you are going to take a tough line, then you should be prepared to have a solid back up plan if the other party won't agree. Aye very true, i just think Ashley thought Rafa would bow to him, playing on Rafa's affection for us and the club. Nah Mike just thought he could replace him easy They’re finding out one decent wants to work for Mike Ashley F.C anymore their restrictive model has put every talented manager off. Bet he was hoping someone like Rafa would come out of me nowhere and save him. Not this time. Yeah it has backfired spectacularly, while it's funny to see them squirm around trying to get someone, anyone. Personally it's heartbreaking to watch what's happening to our club, it's desperately sad imo.

I actually don't think he did, he just wanted Rafa to bow to his demands and be another of his little lackies, and Rafa was quite rightly having none of it. Rafa saw the club and it's fans, the potential of it all as more than a cash cow for Ashley to bleed dry. As always Ashley know the price of everything but the value of absolutely nothing. Love how Mike thought he could just easly get a good replacement that is willing to work under his restrictive and destructive ownership I bet the amount of rejections they’ve had is scary. He got it badly wrong again. You would hope the idiot is sitting thinking oh no what have i done, i don't think he really will, i doubt he really cares whatsoever, well until his pockets start to get lighter, maybe then.

I actually don't think he did, he just wanted Rafa to bow to his demands and be another of his little lackies, and Rafa was quite rightly having none of it. Rafa saw the club and it's fans, the potential of it all as more than a cash cow for Ashley to bleed dry. As always Ashley know the price of everything but the value of absolutely nothing. Rafa made it clear to him the terms under which he was prepared to stay, and Ashley also made it clear through his pals in the press that he wasn't prepared to bend his transfer policy for anybody. That is the same as saying these are the terms, either sign the contract or fuck off. If you are going to take a tough line, then you should be prepared to have a solid back up plan if the other party won't agree. Aye very true, i just think Ashley thought Rafa would bow to him, playing on Rafa's affection for us and the club.

I actually don't think he did, he just wanted Rafa to bow to his demands and be another of his little lackies, and Rafa was quite rightly having none of it. Rafa saw the club and it's fans, the potential of it all as more than a cash cow for Ashley to bleed dry. As always Ashley know the price of everything but the value of absolutely nothing.

Cunts like him live to very old age, the cunt.

Got linked to this on that page.... Take a look at Pards In Pornos (@PardsinPornos): :lol:

Stunned are they ? Well maybe we should lower the price for them then the fucking arseholes. Whether he should leave because of the mess this club is is irrelevant, how dare we want a good price for one of our players. Fucking hate Man Utd.

Yeah, that all sounds about right. He understands, like Rafa, what the potential is. One trouble is that he used to be a bottom 10 Prem/Top 10 Championship manager, but with his aging and the influx of good coaches from abroad and young British coaches I'd say he's more of a bottom 15 Championship manager now. You might well be right about that mate, as i think we're going see in the next few months.

Bimpy, i really don’t believe Rafa knew the depths Ashley operated at. Think he genuinely saw our potential and that he could help realise that potential. Bruce will know exactly what he’s getting into. I do agree actually, as you said Rafa thought he could change the mindset of Ashley but didn't realise just how much of lunatic he is. In regard to Bruce i just quite like him, i certainly don't want him as manager, you're correct as well that he knows what he's getting into. Like i said i think his roots or whatever you want to call it has pulled the common sense out of him. I had nothing against Bruce as a person. Just think anyone that cares about the club or the region would not work under Ashley when he’s killing the club. You know what you’re getting in to and that is simply just to exist to advertise Sports Direct. Literally nothing else. Aye can't disagree with that

Bimpy, i really don’t believe Rafa knew the depths Ashley operated at. Think he genuinely saw our potential and that he could help realise that potential. Bruce will know exactly what he’s getting into. I do agree actually, as you said Rafa thought he could change the mindset of Ashley but didn't realise just how much of lunatic he is. In regard to Bruce i just quite like him, i certainly don't want him as manager, you're correct as well that he knows what he's getting into. Like i said i think his roots or whatever you want to call it has pulled the common sense out of him.

I doubt Bruce would come just for the money, he's already has enough money to never work again. I actually believe he wants the job because of his connection to the city and area, and that has partially blinded him to what exactly he's walking into. It's a shame as I've always thought he was a nice bloke, a bang average bottom 10 Prem/top 10 Championship manager. Which is exactly what we are as a club the way were run by fat arse. I'm not going to have a go at Bruce for taking the job, taking Ashley's coin, Rafa did. It's just why would you with the mess that's here, but as i said he's blinded by his own love for the club imo. Mind you that love for the club should really have him tell Ashley to go fuck himself, with what the cunt is doing to our club. Then again it might that Bruce is just another dick, doubt it though.

Well done.