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*delete if rule breaking* Decided to have a flick through some of these.
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Couldn't give a shit about the mackems or what they think given their irrelevance but I've posted before how here at uni I know a few Leicester City supporters and they're all sound; knew Ashley was a parasite, us being a big club in this country and all that shabang even before they met me. This is underpinned by, I remember in that rancid Carver run in 2015 we went away to Leicester and got battered 3-0 (Carver accused Williamson of getting deliberately sent off in public) and our fans starting singing 'you FCB, get out of our club'. The Leicester fans then actually joined in, and were singing 'you FCB, get out of their club'. That user is probably just yet another mackem pretending to be a fan of another club to massage their inferiority complex.
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2-1 us. Resulting clamouring in the media for Bruce to stay on.
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Don't really care about them being presented on the pitch, but Willock was, why can't they? The rules still in place for football make no sense.
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Klopp can fuck off, strokey nonce that he is.
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Lee Lawler makes me want to die inside whenever I see him, like.
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Aye, like on deadline day, Boubacar Kamara, great player. Would be a superb signing. Didn't want to move as he thought he'd be moving 'for the sake of it'. A Newcastle with ambition, money and under the management of Antonio Conte would get players like him wanting to come. Bruce, Potter as you mentioned, Lampard, Gerrard, wouldn't have that pull. Depressing that Conte's went from favourite to 10/1 now like.
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Maybe. But I'll be really disappointed if we don't approach him and ask. If he turns us down, fair enough. But I think if he was to come in now, by the end of next season we'd be amongst Everton, Leicester, West Ham, Spurs and Arsenal. Then for the season after that we could make a push for a CL spot. It's just whether he's up for that. He's built squads up before, he took over Juventus in 2011 just after they'd finished 7th in Serie A the season before. They then won the scudetto. Now I'm not saying he'd come in and we'll be winning the title immediately, but he'd be able to galvanise and attract players way beyond any other available manager's ceiling.
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Alright patter about us in this.
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Going by these highlights they battered us.
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Why not? He's been embroiled in relegation battles before in his career at Bari and has led a promotion push at Siena, a bit like Benitez at Extremadura, Tenerife, et cetera. His personality fits the club imo and he'd be idolised in our support in a similar way to how Benitez was which I think he'd love. His squad building at Juventus lead to their success under both him and under Allegri after him. I just want us to approach him, if he says no he says no.
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Can only see one person openly a Newcastle fan amongst those comments tbf. Also, the rancid 'give iz a wave' chants have happened only twice; at the friendly v Norwich and the Burnley cup game. Both in school holidays, cheap tickets, usual goers giving those a miss. Won't happen in league games.
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Conte was reportedly keen according to the Ronny. Never know if you never ask him. We'd be up amongst the best of the rest by next season if Conte is appointed now imo.
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It would matter, like. Football is on a different planet to the mid 1990s, even to 2008. When he returned in '08 he managed 19 league games, and won 5 of them. If we can get a quality manager in now, it should happen now.
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He better not be in charge for Palace. I'll be livid if he's still there for Chelsea, my first game since Rafa's last.
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Keegan The man is the biggest living legend ever associated with this club but he's been out the game for 13 years. He barely, if ever, even does punditry. Yeah it'd be a different world to Bruce but he shouldn't be near the football operations side of the club now.
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That would've been an okay presser had he not had a pop at journalists for being journalists.
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5 at the back, around 3 or 4 players out of position, sitting off a naff Spurs side. Gerrin. What a way to start
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Having him there reduces the chance of us picking something up on Sunday. Ugh.
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A Freddie Fletcher type would be superb for the new owners. The commercial side of the club has been destroyed by that rancid parasite, need someone like him to regrow it.
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Sir John Hall: Newcastle fans live their lives through this club – Mike Ashley forgot that The former owner tells Martin Hardy that Newcastle’s buyers can deliver glory if they avoid the mistakes of the past Sir John Hall was shopping for trees in Kew Gardens, back in 1992, when, as the chairman and owner of Newcastle United, he was invited to meet the next manager of the club. Having been involved in his own takeover saga, he understands the parallels to now — how it took a similarly lengthy period for Amanda Staveley and the Saudi Arabia-backed consortium to wrestle power from Mike Ashley — and knows better than anyone the importance of that first managerial appointment. Hall’s company had built the Metrocentre in Gateshead, Europe’s biggest indoor shopping mall, in the 1980s, which was then sold. He had been pressured to get involved at Newcastle, who were a Division Two club in a decrepit ground, and initially invested £500,000 for a non-controlling stake. But he ended up in a bitter battle before taking control of the club from the McKeag family in 1991, when they were mired in a relegation fight. Before that trip to Kew, Hall had even gone into print with a dreaded vote of confidence for the manager at the time, Ossie Ardiles, with the club second from bottom in Division Two — unaware that his son, Douglas, and the Newcastle board member Freddy Shepherd had flown to meet Kevin Keegan in Spain. The Hall family had just purchased Wynyard Hall, a country house built in 1820 with 6,000 acres of land, when Douglas phoned and told him to leave the Royal Botanic Gardens in Richmond and meet the man who would eventually lead Newcastle to within touching distance of the Premier League title four years later. “We came in [to Newcastle], and basically we’d never been in football before,” Hall says. “I didn’t want to be in football, but I got trapped. I had invested and then the club nearly went bust, so I launched a takeover. “We were all new, and it was Alastair Wilson from Newcastle Breweries [the club’s sponsor at the time] who said that Kevin had been coming back for talks and [that] he wanted to come back. “They whipped across [to Spain] and saw him. As soon as I met him, his knowledge of the game was unbelievable. He must have been sitting in Spain watching the papers and watching television. He knew the players he wanted straight away. We were novices and we were very lucky. “You’re always hoping in your first choice you get the best, but you can never tell. Look at the managers we’ve had after that, some of whom were quite useless.” Hall is 88 now and still super sharp. He has warned Staveley and the consortium looking to rebuild Newcastle to appoint the right people, and to make those appointments quickly. “I would want to see someone of the intellect and knowledge of Arsène Wenger,” he says. “He was brilliant. [But] it’s very difficult. There are very few Arsène Wengers around. “It’s not going to be easy — football isn’t. They will learn, but if they get the right manager and the right chief executive and the right people behind them it will take five years. “It is up to them now. They cannot complain about anybody. The first thing they have to do is make sure they don’t go down. Then build the team up over the next five years — and the fans have to go with them. “They cannot expect to be spending £100 million on this player overnight. I wouldn’t do that. “The club is going to have to change if they are going to challenge at the top, to attract players, because the facilities aren’t good enough, they belong in the Nineties. We are in a new era and a new period. They are coming in with new ideas. Talk is easy. You’ve got to see if they carry out everything they are saying and if they do, then the club has a wonderful future, but it ain’t going to happen overnight.” Hall and Keegan would produce a free-flowing football side. Freddie Fletcher joined from Rangers as chief executive and St James’ Park was rebuilt. Newcastle, who have not been champions of England since 1927, missed out on winning the Premier League on the final day of the 1995-96 season, and that summer the club broke the transfer world record to sign Alan Shearer for £15 million. “It was magic,” Hall says. “You couldn’t believe it was happening, you just rode the wave. Then you can’t stop it. You think, ‘This is never going to end.’ I offered Kevin a ten-year contract. It did end, but it was magic. “What came home to me was, you have your business and you have your job, but a lot of people in the area live their lives through the football club. I could not believe how passionate they were and how much it meant to them. “The responsibility you have as an owner, for the life of your fans, is very difficult to control.” Hall is forthright in his criticism of the Premier League’s present power base and cautious over the club’s majority shareholder being Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund. “There is another kid on the block now,” he says. “If we do it right, we will be challenging them [the top clubs], and I look forward to that. “If you look at things the way they are now, we are getting a lot of criticism. How dare those six clubs criticise us when they were going to break away and form the Super League? They didn’t think of anybody but themselves. It’s ironic that they are criticising us. I’ve got two words for them: ‘Get stuffed!’ “I think we all have feelings [on Saudi ownership] but basically we are all just ordinary supporters. Who is to argue with the people in power at the Premier League? They declared them [the consortium] fit and proper and the government continues to supply the Saudis with arms. “The consortium could put a lot of money into the region. They have decided, where other people wouldn’t, to invest and now you have to wish them the best and hope things turn.” It was 1997 when Hall stepped down as chairman, after Newcastle had beaten Barcelona in the Champions League at St James’ Park. He remained on the board until selling his family’s shareholding in the club to Ashley in 2007. “What changed it for me, as a businessman, was the moment Roman Abramovich came in at Chelsea,” Hall says. “He came in for reasons other than football — and they criticise the Saudis for coming in. “I said, ‘There is no way we can compete with this man. I am not going to risk my family business.’ I tried for two years to sell. I went to London on business on a Monday and I got a call from an agent to say someone was interested in buying Newcastle. “I got picked up at the station and in the boardroom were lawyers and Ashley’s men. He wasn’t there. The deal was done by Wednesday. His team said, ‘We’re in sports goods and we want a successful football team to help sell our products in the Far East.’ That made sense, and they would globalise Newcastle in the way I couldn’t. “He came in with a lot of cash and I was just disappointed it didn’t work out, but he came in for the right reasons. Unfortunately it went wrong, he thought he was doing his best by bringing his London pals in . . . but they weren’t the right people. You have to take the fans with you.” Hall is just back from walking his dogs when we speak. He sounds as full of energy as when Newcastle were top of the Premier League in the 1990s — their strongest period since the Fifties, when they won three FA Cups, the club’s most recent major domestic honour. He will be there, at St James’ Park, to see Newcastle play Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday. “We will let the rest of soccer know we are back,” he says. “When you get to 88 you don’t know how many years you have left, but I hope I might see us win something. If they give us excitement and hope that would be enough. We need hope.”
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He benefitted in 2013/14 from defensive organisation and structure left by Moyes which coupled his more attacking/counterattacking style, a bit like how Bruce benefitted from defensive solidity in 2019-20. That wore off and Everton grew largely dreadful under him. Massive no from me.