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The footballer equivalent to Paris. Incredibly favourable PR, but in reality a bit underwhelming and at times absolutely shite. But vibes and 'aura' and that though.

I'd probably disagree there too, it's one thing being able to find and execute passes from wide areas with time and space on the ball, another thing entirely to find those passes in congested, more central areas of the pitch. When Alexander-Arnold went into midfield he looked like Jeff Hendrick.

As a right back, to be exceptional and to be regarded as the best the league has seen, I think you need to be a quality defender first followed by the ability to effect the game in attacking positions. Alexander-Arnold is literally nowhere near the conversation as the best right back, defensively-speaking, the league has seen. There's been hundreds better than him. He's a great passer when afforded the time and space his position in Liverpool's set up tactically affords him. He's excelled in that area and his quality has been allowed to shine, which is testament to him, his coaches and his teammates equally. He's not the best right back the league has seen though, nor anywhere near the best in the world. To add to the names you mentioned, Bacary Sagna, one who rarely gets mentioned but was a far better right back than Alexander-Arnold.

If you say so. I'm just talking about Joe Willock's performances in the Joe Willock thread, so I don't think measuring him against Bruno and Tonali who were both well below their standard today is really that relevant.

Again, I don't think anyone is singling him out based on one performance, it's that over a long period of time he hasn't done enough when given the opportunity, so I and apparently many others are looking keenly at his contribution. I don't think he contributed much of note to the game today and looked his usual frustrating, haphazard self. More of the same Willock we've seen for a while now. Whether or not he was better than Bruno and Tonali is irrelevant to me.

Willock was poor today. I'm not sure what you mean by telling on myself - I don't rate him, I'm not trying to conceal that opinion.

Yes, because his performances are under scrutiny as we await him to show us something to suggest he's good enough to be part of the team going forward. Tonali and Bruno both had individually poor games, but I don't think this is about individual games with Willock anymore. It's probably been approaching 2 years since he performed well and he's now had ample opportunity.

Reminds me of Sammy Ameobi. Capable of a moment of brilliance but 99% of the time everything he does is wildly out of control. Capable enough for certain sides, but not for us anymore.

Obvious dive. Played for it rather than trying to actually control the football. Poor poor player.

Terrible game. Barnes looks like the only pro footballer on the pitch. All passes are going astray, first touches are all over the place, low quality, messy game.

Beautiful. I think the premier league might be a bit shite?

People need to stop with the Vini's and Bellingham's as the world's best players. Lamine is the fucking boy. He's so clear of them all it's absurd.

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I'm hoping the James Trafford rumours are not with the intention to bring him in as a starter, rather as a back up for 1, 2 maybe even 3 years. Goalkeeping is a mentality game above all else, and it's why we see goalkeepers getting better with age and seldom do we see a young, early twenties top level goalkeeper. Their progression is very different to that of an outfield player. Trafford having a good season in the Championship at Burnley tells me almost nothing other than that he's a talented goalkeeper; mentality-wise, the step up to the premier league is big, the step up to being the number 1 at Newcastle United is absolutely enormous. I'd be concerned if he was our number 1 at this time.