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25% revenue sharing for club sponsorship deals.

Interesting read, thanks. This had me laughing though "The elite teams of western Europe are stocked with stars drawn from Africa, South America and all points in between. "Are there many stars from the middle of the Atlantic or Pacific oceans?

Read through it twice and was trying to figure out if I made some crazy statement pages ago

Not sure why you quoted me.

Was trying to be generous

This reads like someone quoted a terrible vacation guide book. Edit: this might be partially true, with games being shown in the AM before college football (saturday) and NFL (sunday) games.

I have to come back to this. If someone told Bills fans they had to spend $100 a month to watch their local team, Roger Goodell would be getting powerbombed through a folding table.

Probably that, and more ad revenue. Companies will pay more to advertise here. Part of the reason the tampa bay rays are worth 3x as much as NUFC. Something that is getting lost in all of this is that selling targeted ads on a streaming service are worth more than generic ads on a larger broadcast. Also, the teams would be able to monetize the data they get from a team owned streaming service. That is where the big money would come.

Sure but it is easily worth it for the bigger clubs if they get to recoup all the revenue from it. There are colleges in the US with their own networks (Texas).

Meant on tv, and holy shit at the bolded. You guys are getting taken for a ride.

It is pretty easy, the reason they haven't is that they (I assume) don't control their broadcast rights for PL games. NESN and YES are huge money makers for the red sox and yankees, and they were allowed to create those channels because of the way MLB broadcast rights were handled.

Biggest reason I haven't bought it. I'm a red sox fan, and every game against the cubs, white sox, brewers, twins, royals, and cards are blacked out for my region, even though we only get the white sox games locally.

Since I don't live over there, how much would it cost a local NUFC fan to watch every game live? I mean I can watch every Packers game live on Hulu, without paying anything extra.

I think the reason for that is that producing the games is easy, but producing other content, and generating revenue from it, is more difficult. You could see that in the US with the first few years of the Big Ten Network.

Just another way for the bigger clubs to get a larger cut. I'd assume teams would get some cut of the revenues from the PPV for their games, and their games will get the most buys. Over the course of a season Liverpool games will get more buys than Fullham games, and so Liverpool would get more PPV revenue than Fullham.

Ah, that makes sense. I was just confused by the state and cities part. Thought you might be implying it was run by local and state governments, which is what confused me. Something to keep in mind when making comparisons with US sports models is that the US is the size of your continent, so we are naturally going to be more decentralized.

I was wondering that too... do they just mean streaming?

I'm confused about what you mean by the bolded. Are you talking about team owned channels like NESN/YES, or regional stations like FSN, or what? The biggest issue with the league passes like MLBtv is all the game blackouts.

That would be Penn. Guess he just posted the information on the wrong forum all along Being wrong doesn't sound like him It's crazy to me that a team like the Red Sox, in a sport that commentators here constantly claim is dying, is still probably more valuable than the bottom 12 premier league teams combined. EDIT: I'm a red sox fan, but they are only the 3rd most valuable MLB team at best.

Who was the poster constantly talking about redbird capital? Looks like they'll be buying a large chunk of Fenway Sports Group - https://www.wsj.com/articles/red-sox-owner-in-talks-for-deal-with-redball-acquisition-11602286661

The large transfer fee is irrelevant at this point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost Damaging the overall team in an attempt to recoup some of the value is a bad idea.

Why is that? The new stand at Anfield? With the success Liverpool have had in recent years I'd have thought they be loaded. I dont quite understand the details provided here: https://www.empireofthekop.com/2020/09/07/why-liverpool-arent-spending-brilliant-swiss-ramble-thread-reveals-all/ FSG has invested quite a bit into the new main stand and is spending 50-60 million on a new training facility. That is a factor. They were also planning to submit paperwork to obtain permission for Anfield Road End Expansion but as of now, they have stopped it. Also, based on my limited understanding, the wages we provide are incentivized by a heavy bonus structure if we win anything big. Last two years, we won the champions league and the premier league. Our wage bill has grown a lot due to that. Mane, Salah, Van Dijk, Alisson all make 150-200K. If we win anything big they make generous bonus. I remember our CEO commenting to one journalist last year that we dont make any additional money as a club by winning the champions league as the win bonuses take care of that. Again, I might be simplifying or misinterpreting these things. With all of that, we were at an operating profit but it seems COVID-19 has wiped it out. I also believe FSG are being extra cautious due to dual exposure from Liverpool as well as Red Sox. It looks like Red Sox is also projected to experience huge losses this year. FSG are rich but not Abramovich or City rich who can write off losses from two clubs in a year. It is in a way irritating in the sense that I thought this summer we could compete for the truly elite talent. That is not happening. But I dont want to appear as complaining. FSG have been brilliant owners. Everything we make goes right into the club. The club lives within its means and when extra cash is needed - ground expansion, training facility - they have injected cash in the form of zero or low interest loans I believe. I'm a red sox fan, and there have been some questions about Henry and Werner, and if they are losing a lot of money right now. The Red Sox just cut a lot of scouting positions.

well put - what was that period where we were picking results with our defenders scoring random goals as we were dicked off the pitch in most games? he doesn't "deserve credit" for that because winning games by having your defenders score all the goals isn't a tactical plan, it was f***ing luck 12 goals conceded in 15 home isn't purely down to luck man. f***ing hell :lol: not sure what point you think you're making, he stuck to rafa's system in order to keep games tight and as a result we couldn't score for s*** if you think steve bacon is the brains behind that defensive organisation and dubravka playing out of his skin you need help Might as well just had a f***ing crash test dummy in the dugout then? This f***ing board man. Well we can have a look at some stats can’t we? This great defensive record has Dubs with the highest number of saves in the league and also we have the 4th highest shots faced per game behind villa, Bournemouth and Norwich lol. Is that sustainable? Could you tell me what positions those three are in the league? 19thb in goals from open play Shots on target we are 17th 15th in shots per game Counter attack goals 19th 2nd in set piece goals (very sustainable to get all your goal from set plays And defenders) All these things are telling you where we really should be. Through balls per game 19th Short passes 19th Crosses 18th It’s all here if you want to check it: https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/7811/Stages/17590/TeamStatistics/England-Premier-League-2019-2020 Can you tell me the common numbers amongst those stats? They are bottom of the league numbers I'd be interested to see how this compares to last season.

That’s their denial. Then they say even though they deny it there is no jurisdiction as it is a geopolitical dispute being framed as a trade dispute This is how the Empire begins... Palpatine should've sponsored a podracing team instead of building the death star.

Isn't that supposed to be Mussolini?