Wolfcastle

Needs his licences revoked for cruelty. Coaching and dog. Organisers or the fireworks themselves no doubt will be getting the blame for this. Not the cretinous ar5ehole.

Martin Samuel today on Norwich and Watford reckons "Listen, if the owner gets it right, a team from the Premier League does not end up in the championship." Something to bare in mind next time Barnes/Bishop get in touch for him to publish some (twice relegated, several nears misses)regime propaganda. Which is due soon. Was just last week he was bemoaning how we were well run by an English owner who we all hated.

He presents, pundits and analyses like he played. There all the time but may as well not be for all he brings.

To be fair to Edwards (bare with me he comes of weirder and worse) he was against the Staveley #1 takeover before the Saudi's were on the scene. That was my first knowledge of him and thought then he was what he's later turned out to be. His meek "i want Ashley out as much as the next person BUT" then, was as believable as the Womanchester cringe. He just plain doesn't want a takeover, desperately, like beyond the most Newcastle obsessed mackem obsessively. That needs investigated. Personally think, because nobody can be that creepy/weird/obsessed even with a rival club, that its because the club is ran by amateurs under Ashley, appointed managers out of their depth and were it professional why would an amateur, no talent, no ability, out of hid depth cockney w*nker be indluged. Can only be self preservation. *Also doesn't 'coming together' mean that you weren't together, weren't one? re his PIF statement w*nk material?

Clubs propagandist in chief that c**t. I wouldn't say its sensible to needlessly risk relegation on a permanent loop. Our relegations get brushed under the carpet quicker than an attempted breakaway league

They surely just need to tweak the rules to ensure it cant happen again or anybody new coming in must commit to not doing that.

I don't know how they'd do it and know they won't do it anyway but banning the owners ensures this wont come up again. At the very least they signed off on it and most likely all but one or two were deeply involved. Not their lackey's like Soriano and Buck to be the sacrificial lambs. Can you imagine Ashley finally getting done and Canary M Burns Charnley taking the fall? Probably why he's there.

Planning a league for years that fell apart in days Was Vince McMahon in on this?

A few apolgies and all is forgiven and they're not even real apologies - apologizing for causing disruption and anguish, not apologizing for what they did or saying what they did was wrong. Like "I'm sorry if my theiving has been interperetted as being liable to cause any offense"

Florentino was onto something when he said young people are losing interest in football. I'm certainly not getting out of bed for this obligated fixture fulfillment or 'premier league match' in elite club speak

I think its a case of "treason doth never prosper" with this being brushed under the carpet. Returning to the status quo is a return to the same broken system that proved fertile ground for this crisis but because certain people benefit from that, a blind eye will be once again turned. Its just the media and fans of those clubs at the moment that I know of. Media has done well from the cartel domestically almost every pundit either supports, played for or can only be bothered to watch games involving those clubs. Its like another quote about "when they came for the socialists, i remained quiet because i wasn't a socialist' - they were only bothered by how broken the game is when it effected them. Rangers, Leeds, Newcastle, Blackpool and Blackburn was just part of the show to them.

Punishing the people responsible, ultimately banning the owners who at least sanctioned this, would be reasonable and deterrent enough from it ever happening again but that would be a worse punishment for Man City and Chelsea fans than just being relegated for a year and on the other hand could see one of the others get out of jail and get a new, better owner who will kick them on without leaving the league. I'd prefer to get rid of the owners than relegate them because it would be better for football, relegating them is like a temporary ban they'll all bounce back from. Though fully expect neither to happen. Meanwhile Port Vale or someone will get docked points for fielding a player that wasn't registered in time.

That applies to any clubs that have been punished in any way though Yorkie. Juventus, Milan, Marseille, Rangers. Nobody complained about the punishment for the first three and their fans had done nothing to deserve that. There needs to be punishment for this sort of thing and fining a club owner who owns another fifty clubs or one that has 421 players out on loan is not even a slap on the wrist.

"23 year contracts?! What a good idea"

Think they'll play the 'look how vital we are to them, how much they need us' card for more concessions. Why there perhaps needs to be a distinction that apart from their own fans everyone else was split between being disgusted and hoping it didn't happen and disgusted and hoping we got shot of them.

Protests appear to work. Thought as much.

Grim reality that I hated football as it was four days ago sinks in. Nothing changing is basically the same thing as all this takeover stuff resulting in compensation for Ashley. Flatter than a plate full of p(ss

In homage to the guy that always makes me smile with his succint and sporadic contributions to the takeover and Bruce threads with "This c**t been sold yet?" and "this c**t been binned yet" "these c**t been kicked out yet?"

Wonder what would become of the 49 other clubs Man City own. Such a thing should never have been allowed in the first place. The authorities brought a lot of this on themselves with their own greed and out of touchness with the soul of football.

They get Rachel Starr doing the interviews and we get Jim White WTF man

to paraphrase further "Greed is good"

Were Qatar and UAE (Man City) not at loggerheads? It was Qatar versus the rest of the region from what I was hearing/reading though things have gotten better apparently and haven't really followed it since we got scuppered last year. Pay well though apparently.

yep. He's manager of a club he probably never heard of pre Sheik Mansour in a morgue of an atmoshpere when he could be the manager of any famous passionately supported club in the world. Don't anticipate him leading the charge against selling out.

Still a proper club, growing and playing good football in doing so. Everything we've been deprived of and will never have again until we get rid of Ashley.

Can't not like Leeds. If people still had second teams (its just second leagues now) they'd be most people's I'd fancy. Easy to say when there's no fans in the grounds however.