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Third bottom of the form table - with one team below us in play now - and that doesn't include the cup game. Back from lockdown strong though the media reckon

Baring in mind the owner of NUFC will not come out and confirm there is no takeover - knowing what he is and that he is toxic to the club and that his staying will naturally be a huge deterrent to fan interest - it would effect season ticket sales and boycotts. As well as providing an excuse for his assets in the media to push the narrative 'why invest when he's trying to sell' as the lack of investment continues. The Premier League need to at least be made aware, on the record, of this fact and if there is no takeover, they need to announce it to avoid the continued conning of fans. It would be too much to ask for them to do something about an owner that uses takeovers real and imagined to con fans and create an excuse for lack of investment so this would be an extremely modest step to show some toke care towards football fans.

This. How on Earth they've managed to get themselves involved so heavily is an absolute joke. Yes they have the rights but that's for the PL to sort out with SA. It's the content of the PL not Qatar. The PL have been bossed and bullied by Qatar so much its laughable. If/when the takeover goes away. For the sake of all these morals, a lot of media and parliamentary attention should be focused on that. Would be wrong in any sense for a country to have such a say in English football much less one with human rights abuses, modern and current slavery and one that bribed FIFA to host a world cup. In the name of morals and cleaning up sport. Is this the QPL or something like? Yet not a peep I shouldn't wonder.

Does anybody remember a gameshow called Takeover Bid? Me neither, just stumbled across it now by chance. But it says "the series where contestants play Fact or Fib, Crazy Cryptics and Star Spin in the hope that one of them will win tonight's star prize" and if that's not enough Brucie is the host. What if this is all just one giant game of that? A bit like the Never Ending Story - which this also happens to be. https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1991-07-15

They've a sick and weird way of looking at things when you can get 40points and go down and stay up on 37points in another season. As long as a team gets more points than the previous manager did though

Yep. That was really really good. Think everyone should listen to that for some insights into this takeover and previous ones that didn’t quite make. Interesting that BZG pulled out because they felt it was an insult to have to pay a non-refundable deposit to Ashley, along with a number of other insults they felt Ashley dealt them. Also, rumours that the new owners have already bought the freehold for SJP. (Some leaks from the city council) And that PIF/PCP etc had been told around June 1st by the PL that they were going to pass the takeover but on the proviso that they make efforts to sort the piracy. PIF apparently felt that this meant the deal was done. Well worth a listen, whatever you think of Wraith and Mitch. Just the sort of reassuring I like before going to bed, especially on Friday. Like watching Cheers as a kid.

We've stagnated at best. Gone back really. Been fair with him. Thing that's got me set against him most is the ridiculous and sudden (didn't happen at Villa or Sheffield Wed or anywhere else) deifying of him by the media. Hate him now. In fairness he's only reminded me that I hate him by bringing up his Ashley regime crawling stance. Reminded me that he deserves all the s**t and more that he gets. Nearly forgot myself there.

Maybe the PL want the TV rights to go there and not for them to buy NUFC. Like 'nevermind that, can I interest you in this'. certainly think they're c*ntly enough and Masters would at least be in compliance with his job remit (least the only way it will be judged inside football) that way, of improving PL revenue.

I feel like I'd go for him. Not even sure I could say that about Ashley. He's either so s**t, thick and scamming a living that he compels me to drum some sense into him, or a very good wum, which compels me to drum him for the w*nkyness of being like that at his age. Either way its a public service really

Some stuff is up for grabs, though time is ticking, but the settings that are official so far are: Bruce has conceded more goals than Rafa in each of this PL seasons. Football is far worse. Its also highly unlikely Rafa's 10th place can now be achieved. Still in play: Still less goals, less points, less wins, goal difference currently twice as bad. In no way yet has he bettered his predecessor Yet the vibe the media give out as is if its a no contest in Bruce's favour. I think something needs done about this ridiculously agenda driven campaign passing as fair comment. There are people who will believe what they're hearing.

This broke in January, we were talking about this in January!!! and no further forward in July. Am certain that's our pre-season completely hindered now. Not like that won't be a disadvantage to perennial relegation candidates already held back by their owner or anything. Top work PL decision making blokes

Aye, she’s a pane Time to draw the curtains and close this thread. It won't get any better Forget that...it needs framing Explains why no fuss was made regarding Saudi investment in Manchester United. She's close to the Glazers.

NUFC lose = RTG win NUFC win = Bruce is better than Rafa and it must have killed us to win = RTG win every team NUFC get a result against is awful and were lucky yet lucky to have Bruce/Ashley = RTG win

Pretty sure Nicholson sat on This Week and said he has no interest in football/sport. Okay there's something beyond sport here but why wasn't the same interest shown to other SA (and others) investments?. Also a few of his ex mates in the SNP fetch up on RT. Litvonenko, Skirpals, innocents caught up in that and the amount of innocents that could have been. Any outrage about that? Happened to happen in this very country. Is it the SNP - anti Israel/Saudi/USA pro Iran/Russia ideology in effect.

Maybe he just wants to know where he stands, maybe even suspects he'll be here next season (no takeover) but just wants to know for sure. Sometimes the not knowing is worse than either outcome. Its been such a cushy gig for him - never earned it, not on ounce of s**t from match going people, total support across the media (more than Keegan!!!) and zero chance of being sacked by Ashley, that the not knowing is probably as uncomfortable as its been for him in this last year, the poor dear. Also there's the excuse factor.

By my reckoning its 1564 weeks that he's been a total w*nker, but who's counting

Souness was gone before the Kop was pulled down and rebuilt. May 94 against Norwich was the final game in front of the original Kop. Souness was sacked after they got beat at home by Bristol City in January. By sheer chance I happened to watch that May94 Match of the Day earlier this week. Liverpool v Sheffield United 28/10/92 17,856 (PL) < we were getting 30k a division below Liverpool v Crystal Palace 1/12/92 18,525 < Liverpool v QPR 8/12/93 24,561 Liverpool v Coventry 14/3/95 27,183

BZG never got the official "waste of time" ending that Staveley and co #1 got. Or the "taking the club off the market" routine. It just faded into nothing, the media are that tired/pathetic to follow up and after a few weeks only about 5% of us believed it so saying anything was just calling attention to it. This limbo suits the club and the PL. No backlash, no assessement and the tried and tested no investment routine we've had for most of the last 13years. Perhaps as the season has been dragged out so to has this 'takeover' disproportionatley and without justification to excuse it. Feels like that where we are to me. Was never optimistic after the first week or two but am almost certain now it wont happen and its business/death of the club as usual.

Good job he's a lot younger than ordinarily someone in his position would be, otherwise the PL delay would be putting that to the test.

Really didn't rate him. Had no business being here PL or championship for me and only was because of the regime (Pardew > Woodman > Eliott) and as Stifleaay says above, it suggests the player himself knew it. Don't know what people like John Anderson were seeing other than Ireland shirts scratching their head as to why a world class manager like Rafa wouldn't rate him. Made perfect f**king sense to me. On the record here, way back in the day saying we were down when Krul got injured because he wasn't up to it.

BBC1: 6.30 Saturday Evening: the return of Wipeout. Refuse to watch this.

Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more no more no more achieved his dream of playing for Newastle and his nightmare of being one the worst on and off the pitch to ever do so.

Video of Sven Goran Eriksson embedded within and his nose for where the money is admiration for Newcastle. Digging around for his Notts County scarf as we speak.

Won't get relegated. Maybe not "this" season. But we will. Its the already mutli proven inevitable result of how the club is ran. Every club that's ever operated like this gets relegated.

There's a path through this that is anti Ashley and anti Saudi that gets us through the other side with some integrity. The soul of the club is as important as the success of the club. If you don't believe that then what are we doing? What path is that then? Fight Ashley, protest against Saudi involvement in the club. Protect the soul of NUFC. You all keep saying we are special but have rolled over and stuck your legs in the air for the first billionaire that's got a chance of prising us from Ashley's grip. We are special we should be fighting to remain so. If we don't then what's the point? Yes lets have a mock funeral and not eat the pies at half time and oh .... There is no soul left to preserve 13 years of Ashley proved that . Then what's the point? What's your answer then? Fan ownership? There's a plenty of stops between being Saudi or Ashley owned. I'm idealistic not naïve, I want someone with ambition that cares that doesn't have blood on their hands. Is it realistic probably not but does it mean we shouldn't fight for it f*** no. Where have these stops been the last 13 years you talk about ? The same support the team not the regime bullshit that held us back during the Ashley era. Don’t think so I haven’t been in 11 years, so try again. You say there’s stops between Ashley and Saudis. Like I said your naive, where have these stops been the last 13 years ? And where will these stops be waiting to pay 300 million in the middle of a global pandemic, with the worlds economy f#%cked. I’m anything but support the team and not the regime brigade, but what I am is a realist. Your alternative to the Saudis is another long period of Ownership under Ashley unfortunately. That's what it boils down to for me. First step to getting rid of Ashley is getting rid of Ashley - I'm looking no further ahead than that until it comes around. The first step to getting rid of Saudi ownership is also probably getting rid of Ashley.