Dr Jinx

Does anyone know what percentage of the company they are buying?

I mean it’s not going to mean much if it’s like 1%, but if it’s 10% or more then that’s a pretty big stake they will own.

 

They can think again if they think this means I’ll get an EE contract though, not a chance.

Anything over 5% and they would have to notify the exchange. So it’s less than that.

They have been buying up shares for a few weeks now though. I don’t think it’s as significant as the piracy crackdown announcement though.

That’s the most positive news this takeover has had in about 2 months. The pendulum has swung back to it actually happening now.

It’s no more than a token gesture to keep BeIN quiet while this is announced, imminently I would guess.

Honestly didn’t see lots to be worried about when they played Villa the other night. They could well be tired after that too (Arsenal were against Brighton..)

No way of knowing what sort of team we’ll be until the match starts but we’re capable of beating better teams than them when things click.

Being wildly optimistic I’m going to go with us going 2-0 up and then giving a goal away with 10 minutes to go, falling to pieces but somehow holding on in true Steve Bruce jammy luck style

2-1

Lockdown has not been kind to the chap

All common sense is telling me that they don’t have sufficient grounds to reject it, yet there’s this niggling feeling that they will reject it anyway.

It’s an absolute clusterfuck. I’m feeling total despair at the thought of more seasons of Mike Ashley, yet this time without a pot to piss in. Grim.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-8429197/Banking-chief-quits-sexism-storm-UK-Finance-boss-resigns.html

 

Nice to know you dont have to be good looking to pull Elle Mcpherson ?

Madness you can be shamed into resigning for that. It's PC gone mad, Stu. Half this forum would have to commit seppuku over their comments made about Mandy

And what’s her face from Eastenders

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-8429197/Banking-chief-quits-sexism-storm-UK-Finance-boss-resigns.html

 

Nice to know you dont have to be good looking to pull Elle Mcpherson ?

I was reading that. It seems significant that he would do that now, he hasn’t been apologetic about it at all for over a decade. Timing is odd.

He’s due to give evidence in the trial. Does his resignation have any bearing on Barclays case?

medvc4a

Armed forces “medical services”

https://www.flightradar24.com/GLF4/24b6d57b

 

Here we go!

Who’s going on their holidays? ?

Well overall I think the day could have gone a lot worse. Seems to me the PL still have a bit of leverage with KSA and that’s ultimately what the hold up is. How can it benefit them to approve it?

I think an assurance to make a similar bid that Qatar did for PL rights next time round will be happening in back channels. Dastardly Dick Masters didn’t claw his way up from the cricket board to where he is now by not being as corrupt as everyone that’s gone before him. I’m certain of it

This line from the BBC report doesn't make great reading mind:

 

"But in its judgement, issued on Tuesday, the WTO found that Saudi Arabia had facilitated the beoutQ operation and had "acted in a manner inconsistent" with international law protecting intellectual property rights."

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53068494

Again, it doesn’t say that in the WTO report. I’ve found the bbc journos to be way off on this story over the last few weeks.

One thing I don’t understand is all the excitement from the journalists that this is being released at 3, the premier league has had the draft report for weeks already.

Supposedly Qatar sent them a copy of it, or their lawyers sent them a document containing parts of the report (the bits they wanted the PL to be influenced by perhaps) - no way of knowing.

It’s supposed to be a confidential report with only the interested parties being privy to. The PL are not an interested party as far goes the complaint (even though it does relate to their product)

So I would imagine the PL have been waiting for the full report (from the source) to be released so their lawyers can pour over it.

Let’s just speculate that Qatar have shown them a reason to block the takeover, so now they’ll be looking through it for a reason to pass it?

3rd party report.. man FIFA are still so corrupt.

Opinions based on nothing. The PL aren’t talking about it to anyone. Whatever happens at least they can’t be accused of being unprofessional about it.

Do we actually know when the report will be published or is it still a vague “soon”?

He didn't say anything of the sort. He was interviewing Roberto Azevêdo from the WTO who said there would be a ruling, but wouldn't be drawn on when or if it had already been made, and said it would be between the two countries to come to a resolution.

 

This is what I saw too. I actually think there's a lot to be optimistic about. KSA cant just ignore this report and its findings and will need to seek a resolution with Qatar. Qatar too will want reparations and so surely it stands to reason that once that has been resolved the takeover will be free to be pushed through.

 

It would explain why the PL.havent rejected it yet, it seems to me that they're waiting for the report to be released so that that can be resolved which would leave them free to ok the takeover without repercussions from both sides.

 

Thing is though KSA can just ignore this report. They don’t have to come to a resolution with their regional rival/ enemy Qatar if they don’t want to.

Am I correct in thinking that BeoutQ was still in operation (officially) when Qatar made the complaint to the WTO?

The fact that it’s been all but shut down now must play into the judgement. It would be unprecedented to declare that KSA had a direct hand in building/distributing the platform, and I don’t think they could find any evidence of that anyway.

So at worst all they can say is that they took too long in shutting it down.

I think the language will be balanced in the report. At the end of the day they want to resolve the dispute. Being overly critical of KSA won’t achieve that.

With that in mind I can’t see how the PL can take that as a smoking gun to fail the O&D’s test.

Think they’re just waiting for it because that’s what they have to do.

From the start of this thread until now the same comments are just being posted over and over again. The same arguments. Same opinions.

There hasn’t been anything newsworthy about it in weeks and yet we’re still somehow posting 15+ pages every day, thank fuck we’ll be able to go back to complaining about how shite of a manager Steve Bruce is soon ? anything to distract from this..

Posted screenshots of the court proceedings on Twitter and being discussed now in court. Judge wants the evidence sent to him.

Dan Roan in trouble!!

I on the other hand have not taken a shit in days.

Operating strictly within the FFP rules is still a million miles ahead of what we’ve been used to under Ashley.

It all depends on how much they can increase our revenue by.

f*** these papers. Praying on our desperation.

It’s what they’ve always done. That’s actually what I’m looking forward to most if this goes through. The potential lack of drama.

Its all sorted man, money talks, Bein sports will be broadcast legally in Saudi by the re-start of the season and Ashley will be long gone.

 

Money talks but Qatar have arguably more. Certainly they are capable to offer more to the PL.

 

According to a colleague, you can watch BeIN legally from KSA through their app or other 3rd party apps. Apparently loads of people watch it this way. Last year, I spent few days in Abu Dhabi and Bahrain - they are also part of the blockade - but BeIN's channels (and Al-Jazeera) were widely available in hotels and bars and it certainly wasn't beoutQ signal

 

Just interested, how do Qatar have arguably more financial power when Saudi Arabia's economy appears to be roughly three to four times larger by every measure?

They have a much higher gdp but this is based purely on a much lower population. Overall less than 3 million I think, about 2 million of those are expats.

But saying that they export more oil than any other nation in the Middle East.

Saudi have mountains of cash reserves and gold and everything else you could think of but they also have high unemployment. They desperately need to diversify and modernise, something they are miles behind Qatar with.

In terms of international influence, it might be easy to concede that Qatar have more but Saudi are the only nation from that region to be part of the G20.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but the bidding process for the rights in the Middle-East is in 2021 right? If so, I imagine they should be discussing the deal for the current and next season, but some time next year, when the bidding starts, the Saudis are ready to bid? Its like a countdown to the end days for beIN whatever way you look at it if this deal goes through.

21/22 I think?

He’ll be playing for a move either way the takeover goes

As much as I dislike him, he’s not wrong.

 

He might be though, he, you or I don't know that

Yep absolutely, it’s all guesswork. Including the press, especially the press. I just ignore all these “project fear” pieces for the most part now. It’s 99% the same story with a different sensationalist headline designed to get clicks and upset people. Fuck them, I’m not biting.

If I did I’d be stressing that this takeover would collapse every night, and then somehow find it still ongoing the next day. Rinse and repeat.

It’s been almost 9 weeks since the documents were sent in. Not ideal but not insane either given everything else that’s been going on.

Everyone is coming from a point where they assume work on this has been happening the whole time, we might only be 3-4 weeks into the process in relation to resources available if there was no pandemic.

Again, that’s just a thought and am not basing it on anything other than a guess.