Dr Jinx

Sounds like a bit of a drama Queen this lad. Sure, the leak was poorly timed but who was reporting the Howe thing? British journalists? He trusts that?

Quite disrespectful to another manager to use that as a reason why you’d be having doubts.

I wonder if Man Utd made contact, it’s only a matter of time before Ole gets binned.. we might have been played here.

I’d say he was pissed off he had to answer questions about the nufc job on the day of a CL match.

Someone leaked this story well before it was ready to be.

Sounds like Ballague has been on the wine, of course we don’t have a structure like Man City in place, it took them several years to do that.

If anyone had an issue like that this wouldn’t have even gotten to interview stage.

1 minute ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

Yes, the clubs hold player's registrations and there are rules about approaching them, a manager is just like any other member of staff and they can talk to other potential employers without the knowledge / permission of the club.

Correct, I’m not sure what the protocol is though, he’s got a release clause so perhaps the club have to make the offer to Villarreal before formally offering a contract to Emery?

All minor details though at this stage.

11 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Even if Everton we’re considering Rafa’s position I couldn’t see them sacking him at the moment. They know fine well we would take him so why cough out to sack him, when they could receive millions instead.

 

It would be like the situation when we hired Souness and Blackburn we’re on the brink of sacking the cunt, then along comes Freddie and gives them a lumper.

 

It would certainly be a win for Everton if they are losing faith with Rafa.

 

 

 

 

 

 

They don’t seem that flippant though. Ancelotti had bad spells last season too which they let go.. I think their supporters were sort of indifferent to him and he was the same with them. He couldn’t wait to get out of there.

Can’t see Rafa being sacked.

3 minutes ago, Manxst said:

Nah, I’m sure we’d have asked, but it’s clear he’s a ‘winner’ and not a ‘builder’ which is what we need right now. He’d have turned us down for sure. He’s a man who wants trophies and move, not build an empire. 

Surely that’s just circumstance though. He wanted to stay in his last role but the board broke promises.

He’s high maintenance for sure but there’s no doubt the intelligence he has in setting up his teams to the strength of his players. I’m really annoyed he’s going to Spurs, such a waste.

Slight question mark about Dutch managers in the premier league, none have ever had sustained success.

Although Overmars has the experience as a player. So maybe that DoF combo would work, still a gamble though.

Emery at Arsenal was not good if anyone can remember, they were a soft touch and he looked like a rabbit in the headlights when things weren’t going well.

Fonseca could be anything. Total gamble.

Martinez, well his Everton side were frail at the back, something Koeman sorted out while he was there.

Rafa hasn’t exactly pulled up trees in his last two appointments. Had the platform in China, should have easily been the best coach there. Everton was always going to be tough but they could be doing better, is he hitting a rut? The Mike Ashley effect?

The PFM’s in training also don’t inspire confidence.

Conte is the standout candidate and it looks like we didn’t even try.

3 hours ago, GWN said:

 

great post , i echo this on reflection 

Its the usual suspects. Basically the middle of the park and the defence is just one soft gooey mess.
 

It’s so easy to play against us when there’s no pace, physicality or intelligence in those areas. Like a hot knife through butter

Not sure if mentioned before but perhaps a reason in the hold up, Yasir  Al-Rumayyan tested positive for covid. He was supposed to attend the climate conference but couldn’t because of it.

I think it’s important to note that it’s not like this squad downed tools for Steve Bruce, they genuinely liked him and of course, all the days off each week.
 

That’s 2 and a bit years of a culture of laziness instilled into them.

So the idea that they were somehow going to find motivation, fitness and organisational skills within 2 weeks is absolutely mental.

Some of these lot will be genuinely bummed out that Bruce is gone, the lifestyle they were living soon to be over.

It took Arteta a season and a bit to get Arsenal playing decent football (and they were calling for him to be sacked 5 games ago), fuck knows how long it would take any decent coach to get a tune out of this bunch of fuckwits.

Anyway, just a thought. I felt peeved towards Jones after the match but when you reflect on things and consider the attitudes of certain players.. well you know what am getting at.

7 minutes ago, joeyt said:

West Ham are great to watch now. Pace and power with Antonio/Bowen, subtlety with Fornals/Behrahma/Lanzini and a huge threat at set pieces.

 

They sort of stumbled on Moyes again and he's been great for them. They're flying in all competitions

They’ve got a very good balance to their team and from what I’ve seen of Rice this season, he always seems to have time on the ball, it’s as if players know they’ll come out second best in a tussle so they don’t even bother.

If we’re going to start assembling an expensive squad, that’s who we should be after. 22 years old, probably a future England captain.

Fonseca would be done by now if that’s who we wanted imho.

Available, it’s straight forward.

Our current league position has to be the issue, not that we can’t get our targets, but more a case of a two part appointment maybe.

I can see a scenario where we have an agreement for a top class manager and DoF to come in during the summer and then we’ll just hire a manager similar to how Chelsea brought in Rafa for half a season.

Smart finish.

Remember when Longstaff was being talked up as being better than Rice? ?

That’s how good Rafa is.

I can see them going for Graham Potter this time. He’d be mad to leave his job though at this stage. Brighton are going to have a better season than us or Spurs can dream of. It all comes down to stability and harmony from up above. It’s why I think we’ll be alright in the end. Instilling a healthy work culture etc.. it trickles down.

Any manager taking the Spurs job right now are on a hiding to nothing, club massively in debt, a basket case chairman, star players who don’t want to be there.

Fixing our problems is more straight forward in my opinion.

2 minutes ago, tgarve said:

Wasn’t there rumours of him having aids aswell? 

Yes, back in the day. Remember one of the other forums (ToTT?) having to censor posts where it was mentioned. Which in itself added more weight to the rumours.

He missed games through illness so he must have had other symptoms bubbling away over the years, which makes sense as that illness is an autoimmune disorder which covers a rainbow of other things.

Oh I’m not saying they’d cut their losses, it’s just a matter of the here and now, if they have a stake in Inter and they have a chance to win a title and play in the champions league, that’s where I’d be ploughing my money for the moment.

Some are saying a relegation wouldn’t be so bad, I disagree. We know they are in for other clubs too, say for example they buy Inter as well, suddenly we could be the “B” team.

A year can be a long time when you consider how quickly things have moved in just one month. Personally I think it’s vital we remain in the top league to maintain the focus on us.

Staveley is emotionally invested in this but that’s not to say that PIF are. They will back the best horse they have.

The bookies odds are nothing to do with talk sport. The bookies bet more than the punters do. It’s all an algorithm to balance every eventuality out so whatever happens they somehow come out ahead. It’s only really one off events like Cheltenham where non gamblers get involved when they take a hammering from time to time.

90% of the balls we played toward Wilson today were goal kicks. Total shambles. You could tell the first 5 times we tried it that it wasn’t working, yet we persisted doing it all game.

I think Jones played his part in us staying up last season, but other teams have improved, adapted etc.. he could well have run out of ideas.

We just look totally devoid of anything worth building on.

Hayden comes off and we fall apart.

A whole new back line and midfield is needed in January or we’re fucked.

Just now, nufcnick said:

Yeah TBH I’m gutted the wasn’t announced today to give them a bit of a lift 

Timing would be better after the match if or when we lose.

The way Longstaff just gave up running to a saunter after Rudiger passed him has pissed me off royally. It’s one thing being slower than another player, to just give up entirely and absolve yourself of any responsibility is unforgivable. The sooner he’s shipped out the better.

Lots to consider for second half, some stupid yellow cards.

We miss Joelinton. Never thought I’d say that but it’s true.

Hayden should be brought off as he’s walking a tightrope, you literally could not trust Shelvey or Longstaff to get through a fraction of the work he does though.

Chelsea seem to think direct balls into the middle of our box will reap rewards.

I’m surprised Shelvey went back into the squad after that shocking cameo against Spurs, honestly thought he was going to be blacklisted and sent to the reserves until January.

So we can safely say the love in for Graeme Jones is over. It just goes to show how bad Steve Bruce was before he came in that we thought he was some messiah.

I think he can quite easily do a good job with the reserves side, but that would be up to him if he’d take the step down.

2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Shame they weren’t arsed about Sports Direct paying nowhere near market value or within 10% of the competition.

“Mike Ashley owns the club, he can do what he wants with it” that was a line constantly fed to us by anyone and everyone.

Now it’s, “Saudi own the club and they’re not allowed do anything”

Such hypocritical arseholes.