Dr Jinx

Yep it’s best to stick to what we know.

The PL requested the document of how Newcastle came to the figure of compensation that they are seeking. The judge denied this.

They had until today to submit their evidence of why the case should be thrown out for jurisdiction reasons. They did this today. The judge will look over what will likely be a mountain of paperwork and make a decision in a couple of weeks most likely.

There’s nothing new or that could be perceived as a negative, or a positive for that matter. We knew there would be a wait.

If we lose this jurisdiction thing I would not be confident of any other route being successful. It’s a hugely important.

It’s quite amusing how yesterday although there was no actual concrete news, the mood was generally quite positive.. 24 hours later,  with no concrete news, the mood has flipped to one of negativity once again.

We have to be the most schizophrenic fanbase going when it comes to football clubs ?

13 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

That thought has crossed my mind too, but then it would probably be easier to start the CAT case after arbitration if that were the reason, the timing suggests to me that at least part of the reason is to put pressure on the PL to settle the arbitration. 

oh it’s definitely a reason too. I think if the PL get knocked back on their jurisdiction claim they will settle. There’s no way they’ll want all this information in the public domain.

6 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

Yeah, I completely agree. I think the club are worried the arbitration might not go their way (so am I) and the CAT case is there now to try to force the PL into a settlement on both.

That’s my take on it too.

Although the thought has occurred to me that we do win the arbitration but then the club isn’t valued at the same price as before. So the CAT case is actually all about compensation to Mike Ashley, and that’s why the judge didn’t disclose the commercial document about where St James Holdings came to a specific figure.

There could be up to a 100 million drop in price and he’s making sure he gets it back.

It’s never going to achieve anything but that’s not really the issue. If they want to continue doing it they should by all means.

A year ago it seemed to be more than the empty gesture it’s become.

I agree that the internet should be regulated to a degree, in that I mean, why not have a digital passport to sign up for things?

It would go a long way to stopping idiots making racist comments online, nonces would have to stop noncing, scammers would have no place to hide and people would generally have to be a little bit nicer in their interactions with others. How can that be a bad thing?

In hindsight the best thing Caulkin could have done was to step back from it completely.

The thing is, once (if) the takeover happens, all these people will be in its shade and will be quickly forgotten when it comes to what happens next with nufc

6 minutes ago, nbthree3 said:

Well as it may or may not be you, can you give us a summary of what happened at the bbc? 

 @nbthree3 is that you Ben? 

Good lad! Even if he is poking a little fun at the club too ? wonder if Mbappe will think the cold is an issue if this takeover ever goes through 

21 minutes ago, Scoot said:

So what is happening next week? Didnt the premier league apply for an extension to the CAT case until next friday. What happens on friday is what I'm asking?

The PL have to submit their case on why the CAT should be shut down. Don’t expect any news to come of this for at least a few weeks. The judge will have to look over what I presume will be a mountain of paperwork and then the club will also be able to make a case for why it should, but I don’t know what happens there. Maybe someone else can answer that?

“And then I told him the logo needed a drop shadow”

3 minutes ago, Froggy said:

There are a lot of Man Utd fans. You will see plenty of morons. I know a Newcastle Utd fan who thinks Bruce is doing a good job. 

Trust me, the vast majority want Ole in, and would be absolutely overjoyed if he were to be a trophy winning manager of the club. His legendary status won't stop him coming under fire if it all goes to shit though. We're getting closer, and won't let the progress grind to a halt. 

I've seen them too!

Side topic question, how did you end up being a regular poster on this board? ?

1 minute ago, Froggy said:

I feel like it's our supporters who aren't entitled. The vast majority want Ole in. It's opposition fans who make a mockery of him and say we should get a better manager. 

We a

I’ve seen plenty of Man Utd supporters bitch and moan about him, especially the day after the Europa final. Couldn’t believe what I was seeing to be honest.

Not getting the hate for OGS, more so by their own fans.

They've just had a very decent season, especially how they finished it. People like Pogba looking interested again.

The post Ferguson hangover was always going to be brutal for them and they slipped to be an almost unrecognisable side to what they were. It’s a long way back from that.. managers with better cv’s on paper couldn’t do it (LVG, Jose) but OGS has done well imo.. they need season on season improvements to be real challengers again. It’s small increments at this point. 2/3 good signings.

The supporters are the issue here, feel absolutely entitled to be winning silverware with absolutely no cop on that they had a once in a century institution in Ferguson, who didn’t have to deal with a league that was as competitive in the early 90’s, he had time to build that up that they aren’t prepared to give to anyone else.

8 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

Pop him on ignore, like.

The biggest irony is that the ones that are wound up by him are the only ones quoting him. 

I just fancy a thread on the takeover where we discuss the takeover. Seems simple enough.

 

This thread was always going to get toxic before the PL submit their evidence for the jurisdiction challenge. A big long wait with zero news getting out.

That's the 11th.. God knows how long the judge will take to deliberate over that.

Everything you see on here, twitter etc is just noise between now and then.

The judge said that Barclays had acted deceptively and improperly but didn't award her any damages on some technicality.

So she basically wasn't wrong in her case.. She just didn't have enough to nail them.

It's gotten tetchy this week, I knew it would. We're a week away from things actually happening.

It still doesn't help, feels like am in purgatory. Maybe I died last year of Covid and the punishment for all my sins is a never ending takeover, Ben Jacobs, Like Edwards, Caulkin and that awful Keith chap, oh and the bum chums on Wraiths show. It's fucking awful.

I nearly don't want a takeover just so these prats won't claim it as their own victory.

How have we allowed such a rabble to represent us? Surely there's brighter folk who could step in?

I think it's a simplification to say they couldn't agree on who to test. The consortium put forward their relevant nominations who all would have flown through the test based on its normal criteria.

The issue is an agenda by the PL to sort out copyright infringement, so by requesting a state to be a director (which is unprecedented) hoping that they could gain leverage.

There's nowhere in their rulebook that covers this so they have acted well outside the bounds on their test. They should have disqualified PIF based on their assumptions.

15 hours ago, Kaizero said:

I liked the color scheme of the 125th anniversary badge.

Voila. Also @Stifler Calvert typeface.

3 minutes ago, ToonArmy1892 said:

Why aren't we allowed to enjoy supporting our club.

Mike Ashley.

5 minutes ago, Decky said:

Shades of black would make that way better. Not sure why they're going with green?

Don't worry man, it's just a mock up. I'll see if there's a general consensus on what colours work best and I'll do a revision at some point tomorrow.

1 minute ago, et tu brute said:

Not a bad effort at all that, looks canny.

Might be a bit too green but overall I don't think the round badge is as bad as terrible as had initially thought.

The current one is perfectly fine though, I only wish it would be sewed into the jerseys like they were in the 90's.. The printed on one looks gash, especially arou d the ribbon part.

Just now, et tu brute said:

I presume that just a mock up by someone?

Yeah I done it earlier. The idea of a round badge but keeping the best bits of the current one seemed interesting to attempt.

The green on the seahorses is a nod to the city coat of arms.

45 minutes ago, Wandy said:

When will we know after June 11th if the PL have been successful in having the CAT thrown out?

My guess is the PL will load the judge with "evidence" to support their claim. The more the better as far as they are concerned.

Delay tactics again. No idea how the judge will side with it. If it gets thrown out the game is up but if it continues they'll see another delay as a win, especially if arbitration is going their way.

We need to tip the balance in our favour soon.