Gawalls

Pochetino for me, after the world cup he has nothing to do for four years, he did a good job eventually at Chelsea, finishing 5th with a carabao cup final and fa cup semi final, getting them back into Europe and having a much higher xg then their league positions lasted. He also gave the kids a good chance at spurs when there (I was living with three spurs fans at the time and was sick of hearing about him lol).

That's actually a very optimistic scoreline

And Sunderland have spent a fraction of us in that same time and were two divisions lower, What's your point?

Nor had Howe but now he's the only one because he won a trophy yet slot is shit despite winning the premiere League?

Stop living in the present mate, that's not the way

When he's had £431M too spend like we've had then it's a fair comparison.

Is that allowed?

He'd have my sympathy if it was my missus

Everything ends badly otherwise it wouldn't end, fact is since he came we've probably spent in the top 25% of the league yet this season we may be one place of finishing in the bottom 25%. He's been a great manager but no fucker should be getting on the backs of people whose having doubts after this season and his inability the last time we were in the CL to juggle both.

Fuck me - same performance from us again with the same mistakes made, same reactions both good and bad from the same people (me included) on the same forum. It's like fucking ground hog day. What we can only hope is this time the same lessons aren't learned - none.

I'm not doing this again, I get it - some people want Howe too stay and will defend him and others won't. It's a conversation to be honest I'm really bored of some keep my opinions on it to myself these days for the most part.

Doesn't matter if we were controlling it for a portion of the game, fact is we're didn't control it as it's ended up another defeat from a winning position - taking our bad 22 points doing this to an even worse 25. By the end of the season that 25 points may be higher than the total number of points I've or more of the bottom teams go down with.

It also must give opponents strength as they know "now they've scored, they'll come out half time and play half arsed"

25 points, I think that's enough to drop the if from your statement. It is happening constantly

Fair enough but if we want to get past okay we need to learn how to control games when winning and kill it off. 25 points dropped from winning positions is the equivalent of over 8 losses, that's over 20% of the season.

Even without the pen we'd have still dropped two points with us not being able to keep a clean sheet. A point world have done very little for us.

To mentally prepare him for a start next game perhaps? I expect Howe to try different things (well same formation but swap one or two players I mean) and wissa starting next game will be the first.

We may as well say the same things every time as he's making the same mistakes every time, if it's good enough for Eddie it's good enough for this forum.

It's genuinely ended for me

Problem is now every single team we play when they go one nil down must know it means fuck all.

We're spending what we're allowed to spend, something that hasn't happened for decades, sure we could have better sponsors etc but they've chucked every penny at him they're allowed to.

22 points dropped according to Gemini

We're not competing for the same managers as man U, Liverpool and if villa are looking id take Emery

We've dropped 22 points from winning positions this season and over 60% of our goals conceded have been in games where we scored first.

That's an interesting question, he's done a great job but will be move up to the next level and if not are we okay with that? Is he too rigid in picking the same eleven, rubbing then until their knackered? Don't of our defenders are getting on a bit and the only breaks they get most of the time is injury, the subs are always like for like around 60 minute mark and to kept the same formation etc. I'm not saying her should go, in genuinely posing the question, are we cool with this going forward as it's getting us CL football around every other season, won a trophy but I feel this is the highest level. So many managers out there will undo his work though so what's the way forward?