TheBrownBottle

It absolutely is - it’s their club.

I was criticised at the time for stating that the adidas deal looked like a really poor one, given it both the revenue and the length of time we were locked in. Our deal is worth one fifth that of Man City’s new one.

The gap is wider now that it was when we were taken over

‘football friend’

Oof

100% mate - and it’s the lack of ‘back door’ or ‘back of house’ investment that concerns me - I don’t have any real concerns on the investment in the playing staff (we’re spending all that can be spent, and I doubt that PIF are directing transfer targets)

They deffo are - though NUFC now being valued at c.£1bn makes sense to me. We have more reach than those two clubs - but we’re dwarfed by the ESL six.

It is - he seemed overvalued with our bid tbh. If what Liverpool have bid well in excess of that, they’ve had their pants down. I remain unconvinced by the lad.

Money can buy everything other than supporters at the gate, it seems. Man City were always like the Mackems to me - there’s a sizeable ‘hardcore’, but a very obvious ceiling to their support, which makes them appear ‘big’ support wise when they’re in the doldrums and not so big with success* *theory needs real world testing in the case of the mackems

Agreed, but NUFC’s revenue is comfortably bigger than any of the other 13 clubs - Man Utd and Man City are worth something like £5bn each.

Most large businesses have delegated levels of responsibility re cost sign-offs - it’s a mystery to me as to why every deal needs extensive review and sign-off by PIF Europe or whoever. Logic would suggest that a budget would be fixed in place, and the CEO would have sign-off responsibility with that budget - and for any request for more, it would need escalated authority. Standard mismanagement practice, par for the course in KSA - they aren’t genius business people.

Abramovich’s Chelsea sold for more than he’d poured in, despite the nature of the sale

Chelsea run up losses, Man City run up losses, Man Utd run up losses - they’re worth billions. Football doesn’t work like other businesses - mainly because it isn’t really a business in the proper sense. Club’s values have little relation to profitability.

I didn’t lose my cool because my maths were questioned - my maths were right. I got irritated by someone who couldn’t understand simple multiplication, division and subtraction.

I did - basic education is so handy. You had a little on here for free today, but if your parents weren’t able to provide you with an education in the simple things - such as supporting a club from a place you’ve never seen because you saw them win things is tantamount to telling the universe you have a small penis - then all such lessons are likely to be wasted

I suspect he is a mail order bride

It isn’t, and it’s a bloody awful thing to have - but either he can do the job or he can’t. He’s still at the club nearly a year on - so his performance should be assessed against that fact, and we seem rudderless. Either he is fit enough to do the job - in which case, his performance can be criticised - or his illness means he can’t, in which case why is he still here?

You didn’t understand how PSR worked. You referenced an Athletic article and then got confused by simple numbers

Yeah, thought as much. Have you ever been to Liverpool before?

I haven’t, but I’d be willing to bet I’ve been to Anfield more often than you have …

100% - which is why the ‘this would be like Man City if it wasn’t for PSR’ brigade are wrong. PIF are perfectly comfortable with the rules, because this is being done on a strict budget.

But they’d spend a gajillion pounds if it weren’t for PSR

You’re being a silly billy now. You’ll be held back at playtime if you don’t stop being naughty

Second half of 2025 and the silence is absolutely deafening

I was scratching my head at £70m, frankly. It’s an insane fee.