TheBrownBottle

We’re talking about offences which took place after the ones for which he was charged. The country he’s playing in has no relevance. So he could still be charged and punished further.

It hasn’t been a year, though

He’d be right to be angry - they did let him down. It’s players, not fans, who get managers the sack, ultimately.

Honestly, I reckon it would be fantastically harsh to punish him for further betting unless he’s bet on NUFC games. If he’s done that, then an extension to his ban seems absolutely reasonable to me. The FA will investigate and punish if necessary (including suspension length) - that ban becomes worldwide under FIFA.

It’s FIFA who issue the ban - it’s the national FA who investigate and deliver the ‘sentence’

You’d hope not - but history points in that direction …

Who would be in our HG quota for UEFA competitions if we flog Longstaff? If it all looks ok it might make sense; but if we’re throwing kids in it would be crazy to sell him.

I agree to an extent - and it really depends on what (if anything) he’s bet on after he moved to England. If he’s just been betting on football generally then I reckon it would be harsh to extend it any further. If he’s bet on Newcastle’s games then I think punishment will be coming.

The club can support and treat him as an addict - that makes perfect sense to me - but the FA are the ones who dish out the punishments. Addiction of any stripe is terrible and can wreck lives, but being addicted doesn’t offer immunity from punishment.

Yep, if he’s a gambling addict that would be the case. We don’t know that he is - not everyone who gambles irresponsibly is immediately an addict.

I can feel sorry for his employers and the fans - ie the club - more than the individual who caused said problem in the first place

I’m with you 100% on this. The credit they’ve been given for the lowest-hanging of fruit is amazing. I think plenty got excited because it looks impressive to talk about increases in commercials from a % point of view, rather than the obvious that we’re now on a par with Everton. I don’t see how they get close to their stated aims either - and I’m also not sure I completely buy them anymore. I don’t see how we get to Staveley’s boasts under the present circumstances - they look like an albatross around the neck at the moment. I really thought that they’d have dynamic plans coming out of their jacksies - the takeover took a year and a half to go through, for starters - but it’s all very, very quiet. At present, it looks like a paint job with slightly higher than would be expected sponsorships for a reasonably competently run NUFC. I know we’ve made a Faustian pact in terms of who the ultimate owners are; but Faustus also didn’t get what Mephistopheles was selling him …

His charges were brought by the Italian FA for offences in Italy. It wouldn’t be ‘time served’. If he’s continued to be an idiot in England I’ve zero sympathy for the lad - but plenty for the club.

Had some responsibility for the 4th, but I thought he looked ok all things considered. Couple of times when he came off his line to clear was definitely good to see - it is what we’ve missed from a GK

If he’s placed bets after joining Newcastle, then he hasn’t done his time. It’s a separate offence - one for which he’d be banned again. Hard to sympathise; it would be his own fault entirely.

They definitely won’t - the idea that we’ll be able to slowly transition isn’t going to happen. We’re close to the practical income limits of what can be achieved by a club of our size without some serious overachievement on the pitch or a radical change (ie a great big new stadium). The adidas deal is a five year deal; the shirt sponsorship is sorted; there’s a few other avenues to explore but ultimately our income is roughly half Spurs’s income.

Not sure, I still think that depends. If the club are sat lower mid-table in November I’d be surprised if the trigger isn’t about to be pulled. It would be three years into the ‘five year’ or ‘ten year’ plan and we wouldn’t be that much further ahead than we were when the takeover occurred - and the club doesn’t grow any further from mid-table. I know plenty would give Howe much, much longer - but the FFP restrictions would mean that the club surely couldn’t, it would be gambling at that point. I honestly don’t see how revenue increases much if that’s the situation next season - and tbh, I’ve seen a few on here talking about it ‘not mattering’ if we finish bottom half this season. Every PL placing is worth c.£2.5m - I wonder if the board share this view, as we’re likely already close to the FFP limit. A bottom half finish could see us up for a points docking.

That’s often the danger of one man having too much power re transfers. And signing players hasn’t been a block on sacking managers at any time in the past at any club. Results determine whether or not a manager stays on.

There’s 12 games left of the PL season - I don’t think Howe’s in danger this season personally, but if the bottom-half form of the previous 12 games continues for the rest of the season he’d need a bloody good start next year otherwise then he’ll come under pressure is my guess - from the board, support and media. Opposition sides have sussed us a bit - hopefully a big overhaul in the summer on the playing side and the tactics side awaits.

They absolutely took their foot off the pedal, it was depressing to watch

It’s when Jason Tindall comes in and starts shouting them to get back in the bikini that you know Howe and Tindall’s relationship is too close

Bastard love Willock me. Now stay unknackered, Joe

Hahaha fucking hell