Jonas

Tragically that would be okay in itself on average if you didn't know that that's all you were restricted to because of bullshit rules.

This bullshit has somehow managed to be even worse, even less competitive and even more cartel centric than I feared. And its only going to get worse over the years as they consolidate every top player between them, grow their revenues, have successes whilst others are held back from all of that and may even give up and settle like the mid-order have.

Wasn't a peak though was it. Was after a miserable season and in the middle of Intertoto cup games.

They had a half empty stadium for Juventus and less than half-empty stadium for Ajax at the height of the famous Keano era (their Keegan era) so its par for the course

Looked like Leeds had a full-house at their friendly. And they've been yo-yoing between the divisions for years, this is a 10year. generational high for the mackems, money has been spent and things should be at a fever pitch and you still cant drag the majority of them to a game if its not a league game.

He didn't mind the "union lads from the East". Good at suddenly putting walls up of all kinds it seems.

Its like the George Weah situation in 95, of which John Hall said "we are dealing with men of no honour" of PSG - which is just standard now. Used us to up Milan's money.

We can though, so its redundant as a point. Isak is going next summer if not this and that fee more than covers Sesko's fee even if we didn't have a penny besides that, but we do.

Oh well. Sod this for a game of soldiers. Isak stays.

Remember our being linked with him in a weekend paper in 1993 and that was bullshit so would be apt if this was.

The dispassion I expect to feel about any positive Isak contributions for us going forward reminds me of a line King Henry II said in Becket "It is not amusing, to make love to one's own widow"

Is that the one where the Grandma/Liverpool is threatened and intimated by the new kid with a ton of money and cheats and cons him out of it like the c*nt that she/they is/are? Least Fry bought Ted Danson's skeleton though. We'd get gazumped by Chelsea.

Still stands. Luckily there's hardly any football at 3pm on Saturday anymore so it wont be hard to adapt to the outside.

initial point: We cant close that gap whatever we do (the entire point of PSR) Your counter point: Aston Villa have done more, done better My response to that: And they're in exactly the same positiion we are (with less success) and unable to close the gap whatever they've done (as per initial point) Must have been making different points but that was mine and am struggling to see the problem with it

We've done better than Villa. They probably have the equivalent of you on a forum complaining about how we qualified for the CL twice and won a cup and practically without spending for two of those when they've exhausted all options to not achieve that.

Luiz, Diaby and Dhuran just last season, tempermental or not, he was voted their player of the month every month he was there last season - we'd be hopping mad at selling the equivalent. There was talk of how they weren't able to strengthen going into a CL season last season and how daft that was just the same as us and they had to do 'dodgy' (PSR enforced and no other reason) deals with inflated fees even then.

CL money doesn't bridge the gap in revenues anymore. We've been in the CL twice in three seasons and see how its allowed us to compete. Without sustained success we cant match revenues, without matching revenue we can't have sustained success. You're going on like PSR isn't a major thing here. Its obviously the reason why neither ourselves, VIlla or Forest have kicked on. Not a coincidence that after each has had their best seasons in decades they've not built on it. Villa are in the same boat we are and their fans are aware of the psr glass ceiling equally from what I've seen. Unless the rules change we'll average 6th-7th because that's where we are and will likely remain financially. Expecting better isn't going to lead to a happy experience as a fan as there's no logical reason why it should be better.

Were not going to catch up whatever we do. The club could do more but it wont make any difference if they did. The 6 could and will just off-set any incremental gains we make with something.

Ths summer and every one to come. Going to find that mugs game impossible to partake in. I think what caused excitement going into the season are speculation and hope that 1) different league winners 2) different challengers 3) you're own club noticeably improving - on account of new signings. For half the fans none of those are the case now and most that have hope of their club noticeably improving will be proven wrong

Liverpool fans will be up in arms about that no doubt, not good for the game and they've integrity like that. Not like they'd desecrate the sport and sell out with glee if it benefitted them

Its like an expose' documentary of some bloke thats just been rumbled for scamming or something, that nobody is impressed by and more likely laugh at, but he just loves that he's been on tele, shows all his mates and is warmed by the idea that more people around the world have seen him than the average person.

Chelsea, Man City and Blackburn managed to lure players over more successful, established clubs to them despite having no record to speak of and apparently very little going for them at all when the right money was offered. They could pay and could offer a project that's outlawed of us and money was the reason for the projects anyway. Look at some of the players Middlesbrough managed to sign and who they were signed from. There's no logic for that other than money. Top players didn't even come to England at all until the PL got rich, despite English clubs dominance in Europe, size of some of the clubs and the history.

Not (Liverpool fans and the media - as if that's two separate things) even trying to pretend any of this is for the good of football as whole and not at all to completely benefit the likes of themselves now.

The Bowyer window could be said to have started the decline of the club. Missed out on Champions League twice because of it - losing the qualifier on pens then finishing 5th. Precipitated the end of Sir Bobby and Souness' wrecking what Sir Bobby had built. This window highlights an inability to move forward as result of legislature rather than our own stupidity.

The complete lack of proven top class forwards these days really justifies a considerably higher fee for Isak than has reportedly been submitted to date. That's perhaps the major difference from the Cole situation where the opposite was the case and the world our oyster. whilst I'd be okay with big money and to get rid of Isak for the vibes, this is the major snag.