Toon1892

Ok, I’ll sit back and wait for all these £100M CB’s that will be bought/ sold. I don’t think there’ll be many…

Similar money? Just the 30% less for a player with a far greater ceiling.

Not that many. The highest transfer fee this whole summer is £65m. Other than Brighton clubs have spent less this summer than the last few windows. PSR/FFP will cause transfer fees to drop as we are seeing now. I honestly don’t think the list would be that long. Arsenal have just signed one of the best defenders in Europe for £37M.

How many CB’s have been sold for more than £70M?

I think you’re missing the point. The guys point is if you’re paying best player in the world money. The player you’re signing should be one of the best players in the world. He isn’t saying the biggest transfer fees in the world are the best players in the world. If anything you’re proving his point at how many high transfer fee failures there have been. He’s terrible in the air, can’t show a player down the wing and easily switches off. I’d avoid.

Yeah Thiaw isn’t the answer. My Milan colleagues think he’s atrocious and are desperate for him to be sold…

Was class today. Grafted so hard. Well played Sean.

The Gordon ‘flogging’ was paper talk. It was always going to be Minteh.

It’s a toss up between spending a lot of money on players (which we have done) and then having to flog one last minute. Or reigning in the spending and not having as a good a squad as we do now. What would you have preferred? The real issue was Bruno’s release clause, they didn’t want to sell prized assets if Bruno was to go too. Therefore they had to wait until the last week. That isn’t their fault. Now that release clause has expired we’re in a much better position. You have to look at the full picture.

Planned poorly!? There is no golden bullet. Buying unproven youth to sell on to make profit was the plan. It’s a very good plan to keep the proven talent. Without that plan Bruno/ Gordon/ Isak would have been sold. Sorry but it is anything but poor planning. What did you want the club to do?

Hmmm yeah that’s shocking defending. Had to show him down the wing rather than let him cut inside, then was slow once he did cut inside. Hopefully just a one off and he isn’t always like that.

Not saying they do or they don’t but for my ignorance, do these transfers ever pay off for PL clubs? (Excluding la liga clubs).

I’m just shocked people think we will get money for these players. It’s going to cost us about £4M to get rid of Lewis and Hayden. Dubs will go for free. There is no chance we are getting £9M for Ashby. Some of these takes on getting money offloading players is mental.

They haven’t managed to offload Hayden or Lewis for free for three years now. What makes you think they’re going to be able to offload them this window at all never mind for a nominal fee?

Really!? It would cost us money to offload Hayden and Lewis.

But qualifying for Europe next season wouldn’t affect FFP over the last three years. Not qualifying for Europe next season is next seasons FFP issue.

This is exactly what it is and it’s quite obvious to see it. Feeling sorry for everyone else having a meltdown over a FFP workaround.

He gave him 45 mins against Man City in the league cup there. He didn’t look comfortable. So Howe has clearly considered it before.

Similar meltdown when the Gordon rumours were kicking around. We need a striker that can hold up the ball who we can bring on with 15 mins left if we’re trying to protect a result. Last season at times we couldn’t hold on to the ball towards the end of a game. E.g. PSG away. DCL is perfect for that role. He won’t be starting for us and he has nothing to do with Minteh leaving. Minteh leaving is to get profit in this year. It’s not that bad, stop crying.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens this transfer window with our defenders. We currently have 12 defenders on our books and 6 of those defenders only have one year left on their contract. Those are: Trippier- sell if an offer comes in? Schar- offer a year extension? Lascelles- release after this season? Krafth- try and sell now? Burn- offer a year extension Lewis- try and loan/ sell With defenders with longer deals that leaves: Ashby Livramento Botman Kelly Targett Hall Ashby is untested at premier league level and Targett is probably unwanted. After this season that would leave: Livramento Botman Kelly Hall Burn Schar Meaning we need to sign 2 or 3 new defenders either this season or next. It’ll be interesting to see how many get purchased this window in comparison to next.

Wow I’m pleasantly surprised at that. I’m very ignorant when it comes to injuries and for some reason thought he’d only be exercising his knee in Octoberish if he’s not back until December!

Your guess is as good as anyone’s

Yes, you’re correct here. It’s just a change in accounting estimate.

Yeah you’re right. You would amortise all up front costs to the transfer: Agent fees Sign on fee Legal fees For a free transfer these can easily be between £5M-£10M.

The reality is it’s difficulty to break it for one year only. If you sign 4 expensive players on high wages for 5 years, unless you sold players each of those years for profit or increased revenue drastically you’d be looking at a 6 point deduction each year. Rather than just a single 6 points deduction. It then defeats the point in trying to do it.