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It was based on ability. He hadn’t stepped up to City’s reserves at the age of 18. They made a decision that he wouldn’t make it.

How has his step up from under 18s to the reserves gone so far?

Yeah unfortunately the insinuation is incorrect though. He wasn’t offered a new contract.

I want a pathway to a pl first team too. If no one else offered me a contract it still doesn’t mean I’m going to be good.

Why do people think he’s going to be so good? I heard through someone with connections that Man City didn’t offer him a contract. The other ‘big 5’ didn’t either. He’s one that could make it, like the others, but as it stands he’s still got a very long way to go.

Anyone that goes will be a bit pissed off. Therefore it makes sense to take players that don’t have a future as it doesn’t matter if you do annoy them.

It’s the time difference that kills you regardless of what class

Has he not just done to Hall as he’s done with every other player he’s signed?

Squad decisions for next season: Pope (1) Dubravka (sell) Gillespie (2) karius (gone) Trippier (3, or sell and replace) Schar (4) Botman (5) Hall (Doesn’t count in 25 squad) Tino (6) Burn (7) Targett (sell) Krafth (8) Dummet (European contract only) Bruno (9) Joelinton (10) Tonali (11) Miley (Doesn’t count in squad) Longstaff (12) Willock (13) Ritchie (gone) Anderson (14) Almiron (sell?) Barnes (15) Murphy (16) Gordon (17) Wilson (18) Isak (19) Lascelles (20) Which means we need: New cb/ lb, Kelly? (21) New cb, Tosin? (22) New right winger (23) New reserve GK (24) Youngish striker? (25)

I didn’t get a say either despite having a season ticket. It was just a random sample I believe.

I don’t

I don’t think it’s negative. Beth speaks more sense than most of this forum. I know it’s just realism and a lot of posters prefer an echo chamber of happiness. Don’t get too upset if someone has a different opinion to you on a forum. That’s the whole point of a forum. Otherwise sit yourself in front of a mirror and crack on.

Not really. The value of the club will only increase if the debt on the balance sheet has a realistic ROI. If a balance sheet has huge debt in relation to a stadium that does not generate enough profit to pay back that debt the the value of the club will not increase. If the PL determine the new stadium build is not ‘feasible’ that cost/ depreciation on the build would not be an exempt cost for FFP/ PSR spending.

In order for it to be feasibly built they’d need to assess payback/ ROI. Which stadium hasn’t been built using ROI analysis (payback)? All new pl stadium builds would have had to be assessed and therefore they were found to be feasibly built. It’s not just as easy as saying the Saudi’s won’t care about payback. Given the rules the Saudi’s will very much care about payback.

They will be for footballing financial reasons- the cost of a new stadium is only exempt from ffp/psr if it’s feasibly built. They have to demonstrate a payback period that a third party would also be willing to do that project. Therefore in order for us to comply with ffp/ psr the payback will be high on their list of considerations.

Disagree a little here. Man City have the money to buy players that are class in the air and on the floor. I don’t think ‘it just happens that they’re both’. They’ve scouted those players and signed them because they’re good at both.

Yes but our third best defensive aerial player- Tino, wasn’t good enough to mark Burnley’s third best attacking player. Hence they scored. It’s our depth of good players in the air that is currently missing. I agree though if we keep Joelinton fit it is probably less of an issue. And with him fit we did manage to bully them at home this season and may have even had a bigger side with burn at left back. When Burn and Joelinton didn’t play at the Emirates I think they scored 2 or 3 set pieces against us.

Ok I apologise if you’ve taken that the wrong way: Ben White- 6”1 Gabriel- 6”3 Saliba- 6”4 Tomiyasu- 6”2 Rice- 6”1 Partey- 6”1 Odegaard- 5”10 Saka- 5”10 Martinelli- 5”10 Haverz- 6”4 Thats Arsenal’s outfield 10 recently.

I guess Arteta and Pep think it’s easier playing an extra cb at full back rather than elsewhere in the team.

That’s the squad. Not their starting 11’s. If you haven’t seen Man City and Arsenals starting 11s this season it’s impressive!

Ok well let’s wait to see if he buys a traditional one this summer. I honestly don’t think he will. The problem is Arsenal have gone mad and created a team of giants who are class on the floor as well. How do we compete with that? That’s my only thinking. Arteta saw what Man City were doing when he worked with Pep. He learned directly from him. He’s copied that style and it’s paying off. Yes we can go the traditional way of Tottenham and Liverpool but I do think we’d still be playing catch up.

I haven’t changed my mind? Many teams play with 3 CB’s in a back 4 to have more of an aerial presence to defend and attack set pieces which is a huge part of football. I’m explaining why Liverpool didn’t need to in that one season they won the league. Sorry, I don’t mean to argue I’m just saying what I see. You might see it different that is fine. Statistically Schar isn’t great in the air and therefore I can see why Howe wanted to play a third cb as Schar is an incredible footballer and wanted him in the side. There’s no need to get angry about my opinion and I’m sorry it has annoyed you.

Yes completely agree but I think he is signing tall players good in the air who are also good on the floor who he thinks can play left back: Ake Akanji Gvardiol They’re all tall, great in the air and great on the floor.

Ok I will bite and respond to it. Liverpool won the league playing with in my opinion the best aerially defensive player the league has seen in 10 years. Partnered with another cb who was 6”5 that season. They had a cm in Fabinho who was 6”2 and great in the air. They had a very tall team. Make my mind up? Ok I’ve made it up. I think Burn is better in the air than Hall. We can disagree on that, it’s fine but I don’t think I haven’t made my mind up on that. I don’t think I’m being smart. I’m just looking at the very top teams in the league and seeing what they have that we don’t. Then writing that on a forum.

Sorry but you lost me saying Burn is bad in the air and Hall is good in the air. Come on man.