Decky Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I think we have better cover now, tbh i think its time to change, i fear that he has got a reputation as a fans favourite and for that reason Sam wont drop him. People say he needs experience, i think we will see a better Taylor if he isnt a guarenteed first teamer and has to work to be moved up to that place in the team. IM this should be our defence: Beye Cacapa Faye Enrique With Rozenhal in rotation or either in the place of Faye and Cacapa. Obviously if/when Faye and Beye sign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Have to agree in all honesty, as much as i like Taylor. We'll win games with Rozehnal and Cacapa in defense. Not sure how Faye will fit in given how surprisingly good Cacapa's been! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Time to drop your shorts. Taylor can only get better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer9 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I honestly think it's pretty close between Rozenhal and Taylor, and while I agree that Taylor shouldn't be first name on the teamsheet at 21, Rozenhal hasn't been entirely solid. Until Faye's fit, I'd still go Taylor and Cacapa in the centre of defense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Rozenhal has looked less likely to make a mistake. Taylor has been far from solid in the last couple of games. This is going to become a problem if and when we get Faye. Four players expecting first team football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 aye. Not saying he cant make it, but he's not there yet. would be good for him imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Rozenhal has looked less likely to make a mistake. Taylor has been far from solid in the last couple of games. This is going to become a problem if and when we get Faye. Four players expecting first team football. Tough shit for them then. We pick our players who will do the best job. If it isn't Taylor, then so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 There's no way Rozenhal deserves to be dropped, what's he done wrong so far? He's looked very good and while Taylor has been fairly good as well he certainly hasn't looked as solid as Rozenhal. Its got to be Cacapa and Rozenhal IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewellander Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Unfortunately, yeah, Taylor is no longer a guaranteed start. He's worked hard for the team, though, and at 21, I rate him pretty high. But, as much as I love him, I'm happy the day seems to have arrived that we have enough quality in defence that we can talk about sitting out such a decent player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Rotation, rotation, rotation. Having international class defenders in the squad is the best thing that could have happened to Taylor. It might actually help him realize his hype & potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I'd expect Cacapa, Rozehnal, Taylor, and Faye to all get minutes at CB. Taylor may play right back. And Faye at CB, RB, LB, and CM. But the point is well taken, from what I've seen so far-- Cacapa and Rozehnal should be starters. RB CB CB LB ----- --------- ----------- --------- Beye Cacapa Rozenhnal Enrique Taylor Taylor Faye Faye Faye N'Zogbia [Carr] [babayaro] CM ----- Geremi Faye Butt etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest black Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Taylor will be pushed to RB until Beye is fit imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewellander Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Taylor will be pushed to RB until Beye is fit imho. Was Solano in at RB for the cup match? Sam seemed to think that he was our only option at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesD Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 i think beye has already played 4 games this season, so hopefully his fitness won't be too much of a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest black Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Taylor will be pushed to RB until Beye is fit imho. Was Solano in at RB for the cup match? Sam seemed to think that he was our only option at the moment. Also maybe change fit for settled in reference to Beye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I think Taylor will be drop mainly because i never heard something positive from Big sam to him. He is always reserved when he mention him while he gives glowing refernce about Milner and Zoggy. My first defenders will be the following. Beye, Cacapa (Faye), Rozzy (Taylor), Enrique I think Cacapa miss games due to injuries faye will get the nod a head of Taylor in my opinion. Over all though with all this experiance Taylor will get much better in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Don't have a problem with Taylor being dropped/rotated, but i'd like to see if his game comes on when/once we've got a pair of proper fullbacks instead of a left winger and Carr keeping those places warm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 No-brainer. There'll be a canny few simpletons upset at the local hero getting dropped though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Our first choice is Capaca and Rozehnal, but Capaca's fitness is a bit worrying so Taylor is going to be the rotation for them. Faye isn't my cup of tea though, I'd prefer Taylor over him tbh. Can do a job against physical striker though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 This has been done in another thread somewhere..... Taylor isn't good enough yet to be a first choice player. It's as easy as that and as has been said, he'll benefit from not being first choice unless he suffers from IES. (Inflated Ego Syndrome) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StJames Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Keep him on his toes! And avoid the Jenas tendencies to delusions of grandeur! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Keep him on his toes! And avoid the Jenas tendencies to delusions of grandeur! Exactly, drop him for 2 games and then start rotating between Roz, Cacapa and him. Faye is back up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 dropped, not completely - but i think that cacapa, roz and taylor should all get a lot of games. beye can cover as cb as well. those four should be enough, and i honestly hope we don't sign faye as well. i'd go with roz/taylor on the weekend, and then shift to cacapa/roz for a few weeks. then see what constellation is the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 dropped, not completely - but i think that cacapa, roz and taylor should all get a lot of games. beye can cover as cb as well. those four should be enough, and i honestly hope we don't sign faye as well. i'd go with roz/taylor on the weekend, and then shift to cacapa/roz for a few weeks. then see what constellation is the best I beleive that Roz has more potential than Taylor to be honest. He should be the player to build the defence around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 better now maybe, but i still think that taylors potential is greater. i seriously think that he can become immense if he develops "correctly". calm defensive partners such as cacapa and roz are perfect for him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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