The fulcrum.

[Parky]

Liverpool have Gerrard, for Arsenal it's Cesc - Chelsea probably Essien/Lampard and ManU it was Ronaldo and sometimes Scholes. Spurs don't currently have one.

 

Man City - Elano

Everton - Arteta (even when solidly on the wing a lot goes through him).

 

Do we have one?

 

At the moment it will be a toss up between Emre and Barton (when he gets going). I don't really see them as proper fulcrums as neither are adequately multi-roled.

 

Do we need one? Should we get one at Christmas?

[STM]

No we don't have one. We need one though it's either:

 

Emre becomes consistant and finds himself.

 

Barton returns from injury to be that player.

 

Or we buy one.

[Guest alex]

Good word anyway.

[Mr. Snrub]

No, and we don't have anyone in the team who is capable of being one.

[Shearer9]

Of those players, I'd really only say Elano and Lampard are important enough to be called Fulcrums.  The rest I'd just call playmakers.  As long as we do well keeping width with our wingers and keep the strikers involved in build up play, I don't see why we need a "fulcrum".  A playmaker would be nice to have though, someone with real creative touch.

[Parky]

Of those players, I'd really only say Elano and Lampard are important enough to be called Fulcrums.  The rest I'd just call playmakers.  As long as we do well keeping width with our wingers and keep the strikers involved in build up play, I don't see why we need a "fulcrum".  A playmaker would be nice to have though, someone with real creative touch.

 

Surely Gerrard is the monster fulcrum?

[Parky]

Of those players, I'd really only say Elano and Lampard are important enough to be called Fulcrums.  The rest I'd just call playmakers.  As long as we do well keeping width with our wingers and keep the strikers involved in build up play, I don't see why we need a "fulcrum".  A playmaker would be nice to have though, someone with real creative touch.

 

 

SA won't tolerate a specialist 'playmaker'.

[Shearer9]

I get the part about Gerrard being someone that the team emotionally rallies around, but as far as dictating a game goes, I think there are other Liverpool players who do as much or more than he does.  Maybe he is a fulcrum, I just think his contribution is very different from someone like an Elano, Fabregas, etc. 

 

Allardyce tolerates a specialist defensive midfielder, sometimes even 2.  I don't see why he wouldn't have a specialist playmaker.

[Guest alex]

Of those players, I'd really only say Elano and Lampard are important enough to be called Fulcrums.  The rest I'd just call playmakers.  As long as we do well keeping width with our wingers and keep the strikers involved in build up play, I don't see why we need a "fulcrum".  A playmaker would be nice to have though, someone with real creative touch.

 

SA won't tolerate a specialist 'playmaker'.

I wouldn't say that like. He did have Djorkaeff at Bolton for example.

 

[Parky]

I get the part about Gerrard being someone that the team emotionally rallies around, but as far as dictating a game goes, I think there are other Liverpool players who do as much or more than he does.  Maybe he is a fulcrum, I just think his contribution is very different from someone like an Elano, Fabregas, etc. 

 

 

He is the epitomy of fulcrumosity.

[Parky]

Of those players, I'd really only say Elano and Lampard are important enough to be called Fulcrums.  The rest I'd just call playmakers.  As long as we do well keeping width with our wingers and keep the strikers involved in build up play, I don't see why we need a "fulcrum".  A playmaker would be nice to have though, someone with real creative touch.

 

SA won't tolerate a specialist 'playmaker'.

I wouldn't say that like. He did have Djorkaeff at Bolton for example.

 

 

 

Wasn't he more the withdrawn forward type? Not really sure.

[Guest icemanblue]

I get the part about Gerrard being someone that the team emotionally rallies around, but as far as dictating a game goes, I think there are other Liverpool players who do as much or more than he does.  Maybe he is a fulcrum, I just think his contribution is very different from someone like an Elano, Fabregas, etc. 

 

 

He is the epitomy of fulcrumosity.

 

Wow, now there's a word!

[Guest nufc 4 life]

wtf is a fulcrum?

[Parky]

wtf is a fulcrum?

 

The touchstone.  :giggle:

[The Bonk]

wtf is a fulcrum?

 

It's a pivot point suspension system, isn't it? 

[Parky]

wtf is a fulcrum?

 

It's a pivot point suspension system, isn't it? 

 

It's the holy grail of football.

[Yorkie]

It's the one thing we're lacking, i think. That player to grab us by the balls, so to speak, and be that key playmaker. We've had a couple of good performances and really good results, but it's undeniable that people aren't satisfied with just Geremi/Butt/Smith in centre-midfield and rightly so. Which is why it's so great that Barton's back, and Emre. Barton will be our 'fulcrum', i think; he's certainly got the potential to be.

[Baggio]

We shouldn't rely on any individual tbh, that's not to say we shouldn't aim to bring better quality players into the side all the time.

[Disco]

would have said he prefers this kind of playing in the holding role infront of back 4, a lot of Bolton's play went thru Campo and he also tried Solano in this role in pre-season.

[Dokko]

We haven't got one, but i think its only a matter of time until we do.

 

The squad needs a few more bodies in the winter window, and as long as we have a decent season i can see Ashley wanting to bring a big name in during the summer to boost our profile and image across Europe.

 

Arteta would be a good shout, amazing player.

[Guest alex]

Of those players, I'd really only say Elano and Lampard are important enough to be called Fulcrums.  The rest I'd just call playmakers.  As long as we do well keeping width with our wingers and keep the strikers involved in build up play, I don't see why we need a "fulcrum".  A playmaker would be nice to have though, someone with real creative touch.

 

SA won't tolerate a specialist 'playmaker'.

I wouldn't say that like. He did have Djorkaeff at Bolton for example.

 

 

 

Wasn't he more the withdrawn forward type? Not really sure.

Aye, that is the classic position for a playmaker though.

[Parky]

Spurs are a classic example of a team that lost thier fulcrum.

[Yorkie]

We haven't got one, but i think its only a matter of time until we do.

 

The squad needs a few more bodies in the winter window, and as long as we have a decent season i can see Ashley wanting to bring a big name in during the summer to boost our profile and image across Europe.

 

Arteta would be a good shout, amazing player.

 

A right-winger and left-back on low budget in January, then Arteta and Berbatov in the summer.

[Parky]

Of those players, I'd really only say Elano and Lampard are important enough to be called Fulcrums.  The rest I'd just call playmakers.  As long as we do well keeping width with our wingers and keep the strikers involved in build up play, I don't see why we need a "fulcrum".  A playmaker would be nice to have though, someone with real creative touch.

 

SA won't tolerate a specialist 'playmaker'.

I wouldn't say that like. He did have Djorkaeff at Bolton for example.

 

 

 

Wasn't he more the withdrawn forward type? Not really sure.

Aye, that is the classic position for a playmaker though.

 

I don't see a fulcrum as a specialist playmaker imo...More of an allrounder. Fabregas for instance has grown into a fulcrumite from starting more as just a def player with passing qualities...ie He now scores and sets tempo.

 

ie Van der Vaart is a playmaker but doesn't imo qualify for full fulcrumosity.

[Dokko]

We haven't got one, but i think its only a matter of time until we do.

 

The squad needs a few more bodies in the winter window, and as long as we have a decent season i can see Ashley wanting to bring a big name in during the summer to boost our profile and image across Europe.

 

Arteta would be a good shout, amazing player.

 

A right-winger and left-back on low budget in January, then Arteta and Berbatov in the summer.

 

Sounds good to me, although i wouldn't bother with Berbatov, his attitude stinks, he'd cost a bomb, and he'd be 28 by the summer, i'd rather go for someone younger.