Mort tells it like it is - Kneejerkers take note

[Guest Pie]

Sven got so much stick from the window lickers of the world. He was my choice tbh but think it was always a risk to bring him back. Pleased he is doing well as his club record is excellent.

 

[Dokko]

lets be honest, most on here will be critical of allardyce but stop short of wanting a sacking . unfortunatly there has been a lot to be critical about.

 

This is about where i am with him.

 

He's got till the end of the season, and i hope he pulls it round, but ATM, this all just feels like another false dawn.

He's got until the end of the season to do what exactly? How high do we need to finish for him to keep his job in your view?

 

To prove himself, to the fans and to the board.

 

What started off so brighlty off feild has yet to be shown on feild, i'm watching the same shite as i have over the past few seasons only this time were more negative.

 

I get he wants to make us ahrd to beat, only he isn't is he?

 

Like i said a couple of weeks ago, it all depends on where we finish and in what style. 7-8 more games like Derby, Ready or Portsmouth and a scraping top 10 finish and he's gone, no doubt about it.

 

With the squad and facilities he's got at his disposal i dare say he should be doing better than what he's done so far. Easiest run i've seen to a start of a season, and he's fuked it completely up.

 

Its all early days, but there is no such thing as extended paitence in football, especially where money is concerned, if Ashley has any timelines, really this year is a write off in terms of progression considering it could of easily been a Citeh typoe season and should of been.

[NE5]

Allardyce on the other hand came here and had the summer to prepare, he's also had money to spend yet we're still s**** to watch.

 

Not completly fair, he was also caught up in the sale of the club which delayed transfers etc.

 

Yet still spent over £25 million, £11 million net and brought in 9 players.

 

And cleared out a shitload of deadwood from the SBR, Souness and Roeder days combined.

 

Give him time, it's been one transfer window and 2 months into a season! Jesus Christ do we deserve to be in the position we are in or what?!

 

Deadwood? They were all out of contract ffs, apart from that he replaced Dyer with an inferior player in Smith and rightly got rid of Parker, a player I seem to remember getting shot down for for pointing out how shit he is yet most changed their tune in the end.

 

People will be agreeing with me about Allardyce come the end of the season, too.

Apart from a few who weren't out of contract  - Dyer, Luque, Parker, Solano (all arguably 'deadwood' in one way or another) a large number of players being out of contract made Allardyce's job harder still. Ok so they weren't hard to get rid of but it meant he had to bring a hell of a lot of new players in. I can't remember there being so much transfer activity here in a summer.

 

And as I pointed out at the time he would regret not replacing Dyer and Solano properly, which he is.

 

He chose to go down the team full of grafters route rather than bringing in any genuine talent into the first team, the only player he brought in with any sort of talent on the ball is Viduka and he fires long balls at him every chance he gets, add to that we look worse as a defensive unit now compared to how we did under Roeder even though he's spent over £12 million on defenders then I can't see much to shout about.

Not really the point I was making. I was saying he had a huge task in terms of rebuilding and it's far too early to judge him yet - especially the defence, many of whom have never played in the Premier League before this season and are still 'bedding in'. I'm a bit disappointed with how things have gone so far obviously but I'll really only condemn him if the next two transfer windows doesn't see a bit of flair and quality being added to the side. Obviously if it all goes tits up then I'll change my mind. The next four games aren't exactly easy either. Lose them and the pressure may become unbearable.

 

Going to places like Derby and Reading playing for a point, playing Milner and N'Zogbia on opposite sides, the long ball rubbish, playing Alan Smith anywhere apart from the reserves, these things have nothing to do with bedding in.

 

but you wanted Allardyce, right ?

 

 

 

When Souness was in charge I thought he would be a good alternative, I wanted either Sven or Houllier when we replaced Roeder though.

 

 

not what it appears in the quote

 

Still, there's nowt like taking them literally is there  mackems.gif

 

You wanted Allardyce, stop backtracking.

 

 

[Baggio]

Allardyce on the other hand came here and had the summer to prepare, he's also had money to spend yet we're still s**** to watch.

 

Not completly fair, he was also caught up in the sale of the club which delayed transfers etc.

 

Yet still spent over £25 million, £11 million net and brought in 9 players.

 

And cleared out a shitload of deadwood from the SBR, Souness and Roeder days combined.

 

Give him time, it's been one transfer window and 2 months into a season! Jesus Christ do we deserve to be in the position we are in or what?!

 

Deadwood? They were all out of contract ffs, apart from that he replaced Dyer with an inferior player in Smith and rightly got rid of Parker, a player I seem to remember getting shot down for for pointing out how shit he is yet most changed their tune in the end.

 

People will be agreeing with me about Allardyce come the end of the season, too.

Apart from a few who weren't out of contract  - Dyer, Luque, Parker, Solano (all arguably 'deadwood' in one way or another) a large number of players being out of contract made Allardyce's job harder still. Ok so they weren't hard to get rid of but it meant he had to bring a hell of a lot of new players in. I can't remember there being so much transfer activity here in a summer.

 

And as I pointed out at the time he would regret not replacing Dyer and Solano properly, which he is.

 

He chose to go down the team full of grafters route rather than bringing in any genuine talent into the first team, the only player he brought in with any sort of talent on the ball is Viduka and he fires long balls at him every chance he gets, add to that we look worse as a defensive unit now compared to how we did under Roeder even though he's spent over £12 million on defenders then I can't see much to shout about.

Not really the point I was making. I was saying he had a huge task in terms of rebuilding and it's far too early to judge him yet - especially the defence, many of whom have never played in the Premier League before this season and are still 'bedding in'. I'm a bit disappointed with how things have gone so far obviously but I'll really only condemn him if the next two transfer windows doesn't see a bit of flair and quality being added to the side. Obviously if it all goes tits up then I'll change my mind. The next four games aren't exactly easy either. Lose them and the pressure may become unbearable.

 

Going to places like Derby and Reading playing for a point, playing Milner and N'Zogbia on opposite sides, the long ball rubbish, playing Alan Smith anywhere apart from the reserves, these things have nothing to do with bedding in.

 

but you wanted Allardyce, right ?

 

 

 

When Souness was in charge I thought he would be a good alternative, I wanted either Sven or Houllier when we replaced Roeder though.

 

 

not what it appears in the quote

 

Still, there's nowt like taking them literally is there  mackems.gif

 

You wanted Allardyce, stop backtracking.

 

 

 

OK, just after Souness had left.

 

How am I backtracking btw, I said I would have taken him after Souness but wanted Houllier and Sven when we replaced Roeder.

 

 

[NE5]

Allardyce on the other hand came here and had the summer to prepare, he's also had money to spend yet we're still s**** to watch.

 

Not completly fair, he was also caught up in the sale of the club which delayed transfers etc.

 

Yet still spent over £25 million, £11 million net and brought in 9 players.

 

And cleared out a shitload of deadwood from the SBR, Souness and Roeder days combined.

 

Give him time, it's been one transfer window and 2 months into a season! Jesus Christ do we deserve to be in the position we are in or what?!

 

Deadwood? They were all out of contract ffs, apart from that he replaced Dyer with an inferior player in Smith and rightly got rid of Parker, a player I seem to remember getting shot down for for pointing out how shit he is yet most changed their tune in the end.

 

People will be agreeing with me about Allardyce come the end of the season, too.

Apart from a few who weren't out of contract  - Dyer, Luque, Parker, Solano (all arguably 'deadwood' in one way or another) a large number of players being out of contract made Allardyce's job harder still. Ok so they weren't hard to get rid of but it meant he had to bring a hell of a lot of new players in. I can't remember there being so much transfer activity here in a summer.

 

And as I pointed out at the time he would regret not replacing Dyer and Solano properly, which he is.

 

He chose to go down the team full of grafters route rather than bringing in any genuine talent into the first team, the only player he brought in with any sort of talent on the ball is Viduka and he fires long balls at him every chance he gets, add to that we look worse as a defensive unit now compared to how we did under Roeder even though he's spent over £12 million on defenders then I can't see much to shout about.

Not really the point I was making. I was saying he had a huge task in terms of rebuilding and it's far too early to judge him yet - especially the defence, many of whom have never played in the Premier League before this season and are still 'bedding in'. I'm a bit disappointed with how things have gone so far obviously but I'll really only condemn him if the next two transfer windows doesn't see a bit of flair and quality being added to the side. Obviously if it all goes tits up then I'll change my mind. The next four games aren't exactly easy either. Lose them and the pressure may become unbearable.

 

Going to places like Derby and Reading playing for a point, playing Milner and N'Zogbia on opposite sides, the long ball rubbish, playing Alan Smith anywhere apart from the reserves, these things have nothing to do with bedding in.

 

but you wanted Allardyce, right ?

 

 

 

When Souness was in charge I thought he would be a good alternative, I wanted either Sven or Houllier when we replaced Roeder though.

 

 

not what it appears in the quote

 

Still, there's nowt like taking them literally is there  mackems.gif

 

You wanted Allardyce, stop backtracking.

 

 

 

OK, just after Souness had left.

 

How am I backtracking btw, I said I would have taken him after Souness but wanted Houllier and Sven when we replaced Roeder.

 

Baggio Faggio, thought you said you didnt' want to bother with me ?

 

Stick to your convictions.

 

 

[Baggio]

Allardyce on the other hand came here and had the summer to prepare, he's also had money to spend yet we're still s**** to watch.

 

Not completly fair, he was also caught up in the sale of the club which delayed transfers etc.

 

Yet still spent over £25 million, £11 million net and brought in 9 players.

 

And cleared out a shitload of deadwood from the SBR, Souness and Roeder days combined.

 

Give him time, it's been one transfer window and 2 months into a season! Jesus Christ do we deserve to be in the position we are in or what?!

 

Deadwood? They were all out of contract ffs, apart from that he replaced Dyer with an inferior player in Smith and rightly got rid of Parker, a player I seem to remember getting shot down for for pointing out how shit he is yet most changed their tune in the end.

 

People will be agreeing with me about Allardyce come the end of the season, too.

Apart from a few who weren't out of contract  - Dyer, Luque, Parker, Solano (all arguably 'deadwood' in one way or another) a large number of players being out of contract made Allardyce's job harder still. Ok so they weren't hard to get rid of but it meant he had to bring a hell of a lot of new players in. I can't remember there being so much transfer activity here in a summer.

 

And as I pointed out at the time he would regret not replacing Dyer and Solano properly, which he is.

 

He chose to go down the team full of grafters route rather than bringing in any genuine talent into the first team, the only player he brought in with any sort of talent on the ball is Viduka and he fires long balls at him every chance he gets, add to that we look worse as a defensive unit now compared to how we did under Roeder even though he's spent over £12 million on defenders then I can't see much to shout about.

Not really the point I was making. I was saying he had a huge task in terms of rebuilding and it's far too early to judge him yet - especially the defence, many of whom have never played in the Premier League before this season and are still 'bedding in'. I'm a bit disappointed with how things have gone so far obviously but I'll really only condemn him if the next two transfer windows doesn't see a bit of flair and quality being added to the side. Obviously if it all goes tits up then I'll change my mind. The next four games aren't exactly easy either. Lose them and the pressure may become unbearable.

 

Going to places like Derby and Reading playing for a point, playing Milner and N'Zogbia on opposite sides, the long ball rubbish, playing Alan Smith anywhere apart from the reserves, these things have nothing to do with bedding in.

 

but you wanted Allardyce, right ?

 

 

 

When Souness was in charge I thought he would be a good alternative, I wanted either Sven or Houllier when we replaced Roeder though.

 

 

not what it appears in the quote

 

Still, there's nowt like taking them literally is there  mackems.gif

 

You wanted Allardyce, stop backtracking.

 

 

 

OK, just after Souness had left.

 

How am I backtracking btw, I said I would have taken him after Souness but wanted Houllier and Sven when we replaced Roeder.

 

Baggio Faggio, thought you said you didnt' want to bother with me ?

 

Stick to your convictions.

 

 

 

I'm replying to a comment directed towards me Leazes Mag Beermonster toondood NE5, stop stalking me and I won't need to reply.

[NE5]

Allardyce on the other hand came here and had the summer to prepare, he's also had money to spend yet we're still s**** to watch.

 

Not completly fair, he was also caught up in the sale of the club which delayed transfers etc.

 

Yet still spent over £25 million, £11 million net and brought in 9 players.

 

And cleared out a shitload of deadwood from the SBR, Souness and Roeder days combined.

 

Give him time, it's been one transfer window and 2 months into a season! Jesus Christ do we deserve to be in the position we are in or what?!

 

Deadwood? They were all out of contract ffs, apart from that he replaced Dyer with an inferior player in Smith and rightly got rid of Parker, a player I seem to remember getting shot down for for pointing out how shit he is yet most changed their tune in the end.

 

People will be agreeing with me about Allardyce come the end of the season, too.

Apart from a few who weren't out of contract  - Dyer, Luque, Parker, Solano (all arguably 'deadwood' in one way or another) a large number of players being out of contract made Allardyce's job harder still. Ok so they weren't hard to get rid of but it meant he had to bring a hell of a lot of new players in. I can't remember there being so much transfer activity here in a summer.

 

And as I pointed out at the time he would regret not replacing Dyer and Solano properly, which he is.

 

He chose to go down the team full of grafters route rather than bringing in any genuine talent into the first team, the only player he brought in with any sort of talent on the ball is Viduka and he fires long balls at him every chance he gets, add to that we look worse as a defensive unit now compared to how we did under Roeder even though he's spent over £12 million on defenders then I can't see much to shout about.

Not really the point I was making. I was saying he had a huge task in terms of rebuilding and it's far too early to judge him yet - especially the defence, many of whom have never played in the Premier League before this season and are still 'bedding in'. I'm a bit disappointed with how things have gone so far obviously but I'll really only condemn him if the next two transfer windows doesn't see a bit of flair and quality being added to the side. Obviously if it all goes tits up then I'll change my mind. The next four games aren't exactly easy either. Lose them and the pressure may become unbearable.

 

Going to places like Derby and Reading playing for a point, playing Milner and N'Zogbia on opposite sides, the long ball rubbish, playing Alan Smith anywhere apart from the reserves, these things have nothing to do with bedding in.

 

but you wanted Allardyce, right ?

 

 

 

When Souness was in charge I thought he would be a good alternative, I wanted either Sven or Houllier when we replaced Roeder though.

 

 

not what it appears in the quote

 

Still, there's nowt like taking them literally is there  mackems.gif

 

You wanted Allardyce, stop backtracking.

 

 

 

OK, just after Souness had left.

 

How am I backtracking btw, I said I would have taken him after Souness but wanted Houllier and Sven when we replaced Roeder.

 

Baggio Faggio, thought you said you didnt' want to bother with me ?

 

Stick to your convictions.

 

 

 

I'm replying to a comment directed towards me Leazes Mag Beermonster toondood NE5, stop stalking me and I won't need to reply.

 

haha, everybody knows that I was Leazes on here a while ago until I was banned and changed my name by now. Haven't a clue about these other names though. I suppose its like me saying everybody who thinks DOF's are a good idea is Baggio or Faggio ? Aye, stupid isn't it.

 

I'm not stalking you at all. As you are infatuated with what you think are other identities, and dragging up old posts - but not liking it when its done to you, there's only one person stalking here.

 

I hope you have a nice discussion with those intellectual chums of yours on toontastic, until someone edits a post or avatar of yours, although I noticed you falling out with them and getting a strop on with some of them too a while ago. One or two of them are good posters, pity we don't get the few decent ones on howaythetoon that know what they are talking about, like me, but there you go.

 

You'll blend in well with the fuckwits.

 

 

[ChezGiven]

I can't fucking believe some of the comments in this thread, I really can't.

 

Baggio thinks there might be a prize for calling it right 3 managers in a row.

 

Sorry for having an opinion and not being a sheep like the majority of the board.

 

Chompity-chomp 

[Guest Deep456]

Allardyce on the other hand came here and had the summer to prepare, he's also had money to spend yet we're still s**** to watch.

 

Not completly fair, he was also caught up in the sale of the club which delayed transfers etc.

 

Yet still spent over £25 million, £11 million net and brought in 9 players.

 

And cleared out a shitload of deadwood from the SBR, Souness and Roeder days combined.

 

Give him time, it's been one transfer window and 2 months into a season! Jesus Christ do we deserve to be in the position we are in or what?!

 

Deadwood? They were all out of contract ffs, apart from that he replaced Dyer with an inferior player in Smith and rightly got rid of Parker, a player I seem to remember getting shot down for for pointing out how s*** he is yet most changed their tune in the end.

 

People will be agreeing with me about Allardyce come the end of the season, too.

 

I agree with you right now.

[NE5]

It took Robson until his third season to succeed, though he had a world class managerial record and we'd shown signs of progress in the first two seasons despite mid-table finishes.

 

I think one season is enough for Allardyce to have made an impact here, and to show progress, not just in the league but in other areas of the club like fitness, morale, scouting, the academy, youth acquisition and so on. so he can get away with a less than stellar league finish if he can show that the club as a whole is significantly better off than it was a year earlier, and that foundations have been put in place. for his 2nd season he'll have to show a pronounced improvement in both our football and our league position - get us competing for 5th place alongside spurs, everton, man city and the rest - if he doesn't then he can have few complaints if we look elsewhere. to sum up, he's got till the end of next season.

 

Robson came here when the season had already started and we had 1 point after something like 6 games, he had little money to spend and had to make do with signing Gallagher, Allardyce on the other hand came here and had the summer to prepare, he's also had money to spend yet we're still shite to watch.

 

but, "planning" is what its all about, isn't it

[UV]

I hope none of the people arguing that he should be given a couple of seasons at least regardless of results or performances wanted Roeder out after one season beset by massive injuries.

[Mick]

I love it when we win and hate it when we lose but wouldn't expect or want Allardyce sacked before the end of the season.  I hope the club have targets for where they want to be at the end of the season and that should be the only time that a decision is made unless soemthing goes really wrong.  If they have set a target of 6th then Allardyce should be safe if we reach that position, if not then they should look elsewhere.

[Taylor Swift]

I hope none of the people arguing that he should be given a couple of seasons at least regardless of results or performances wanted Roeder out after one season beset by massive injuries.

 

I don't think anyone would argue that Allardyce should stay regardless of results or performances. Roeder's team had showed no progress since he took over, hell, it went backwards from the initial 2-0 win over Pompey, which is why he was rightly sacked (or resigned - whatever).

 

If Allardyce's team shows an improvement in performance, or shows some sort of direction, then I'm willing to trust him and give him a couple of seasons. If, of course, the team's regressed and still direction-less like it was when he was appointed, then he's got to go in time.

[James]

I hope none of the people arguing that he should be given a couple of seasons at least regardless of results or performances wanted Roeder out after one season beset by massive injuries.

 

I don't think anyone would argue that Allardyce should stay regardless of results or performances. Roeder's team had showed no progress since he took over, hell, it went backwards from the initial 2-0 win over Pompey, which is why he was rightly sacked (or resigned - whatever).

 

If Allardyce's team shows an improvement in performance, or shows some sort of direction, then I'm willing to trust him and give him a couple of seasons. If, of course, the team's regressed and still direction-less like it was when he was appointed, then he's got to go in time.

 

Using that reasoning, the fact that we are currently worse than the first 45 mins away at Bolton means that Allardyce deserves to be sacked.

[Taylor Swift]

I hope none of the people arguing that he should be given a couple of seasons at least regardless of results or performances wanted Roeder out after one season beset by massive injuries.

 

I don't think anyone would argue that Allardyce should stay regardless of results or performances. Roeder's team had showed no progress since he took over, hell, it went backwards from the initial 2-0 win over Pompey, which is why he was rightly sacked (or resigned - whatever).

 

If Allardyce's team shows an improvement in performance, or shows some sort of direction, then I'm willing to trust him and give him a couple of seasons. If, of course, the team's regressed and still direction-less like it was when he was appointed, then he's got to go in time.

 

Using that reasoning, the fact that we are currently worse than the first 45 mins away at Bolton means that Allardyce deserves to be sacked.

 

It wasn't only the result you idiot, it was the performance in that game, and the other games during that period.

 

I can't believe you responded to what I wrote literally.

[Wullie]

I hope none of the people arguing that he should be given a couple of seasons at least regardless of results or performances wanted Roeder out after one season beset by massive injuries.

 

I don't think anyone would argue that Allardyce should stay regardless of results or performances. Roeder's team had showed no progress since he took over, hell, it went backwards from the initial 2-0 win over Pompey, which is why he was rightly sacked (or resigned - whatever).

 

If Allardyce's team shows an improvement in performance, or shows some sort of direction, then I'm willing to trust him and give him a couple of seasons. If, of course, the team's regressed and still direction-less like it was when he was appointed, then he's got to go in time.

 

Using that reasoning, the fact that we are currently worse than the first 45 mins away at Bolton means that Allardyce deserves to be sacked.

 

It wasn't only the result you idiot, it was the performance in that game, and the other games during that period.

 

I can't believe you responded to what I wrote literally.

 

I can.

[James]

It was meant to be a joke. Sorry that it wasn't very funny.

[Lazy]

It's always refreshing when we hear from Mort, I'm glad he's got his head screwed on.

[GM]

It was meant to be a joke. Sorry that it wasn't very funny.

 

Pretty much what your father once said rather ruefully, no doubt.

[GM]

I can't fucking believe some of the comments in this thread, I really can't.

 

I can. I sometimes think it's the club's Achilles Heel - the inability of fans to see the bigger picture and exhibit patience and support for what is clearly going to be a longer term rebuilding project. As Mort said, chopping and changing has got us absolutely nowhere. Sam said when he was appointed that there would be tough times ahead. Deep down when I heard him saying that I knew there'd be a section of the fanbase who would object to that instantly.

[manorpark]

 

 

“Chopping and changing managers here hasn’t worked and the success stories at other clubs are usually connected with longevity” added Mort.

 

 

 

I wish the idiot fans would just have some patience and read this quote over and over.

 

I don't get much chance to post on here much at the minute, but this quote is G R E A T,

 

Can we not fix this as a permanent logo at the top of every page?

 

Please let's learn this quote and repeat it to ourselves whenever we feel we are starting to turn "Shepherd-esq daft" in our minds!

[madras]

 

 

“Chopping and changing managers here hasn’t worked and the success stories at other clubs are usually connected with longevity” added Mort.

 

 

 

I wish the idiot fans would just have some patience and read this quote over and over. More likely they'll forget it by next week and spout on about how Mort and Ashley want Sam out and that patience is something they both don't possess...............its depressing but what can you do?

the opposite is true, the stability comes from being succesful not the other way around.

[manorpark]

 

 

“Chopping and changing managers here hasn’t worked and the success stories at other clubs are usually connected with longevity” added Mort.

 

 

 

I wish the idiot fans would just have some patience and read this quote over and over. More likely they'll forget it by next week and spout on about how Mort and Ashley want Sam out and that patience is something they both don't possess...............its depressing but what can you do?

the opposite is true, the stability comes from being succesful not the other way around.

 

Oh Dear . .

 

Stability (with the right people involved . . Ashley / Mort / Allardyce / Money on top players) . .  facilitates the opportunity for success.  THEN (as you say) success should come, and that creates it's own form of additional stability.

 

BUT, first you need . . . . .

[madras]

 

 

“Chopping and changing managers here hasn’t worked and the success stories at other clubs are usually connected with longevity” added Mort.

 

 

 

I wish the idiot fans would just have some patience and read this quote over and over. More likely they'll forget it by next week and spout on about how Mort and Ashley want Sam out and that patience is something they both don't possess...............its depressing but what can you do?

the opposite is true, the stability comes from being succesful not the other way around.

 

Oh Dear . .

 

Stability (with the right people involved . . Ashley / Mort / Allardyce / Money on top players . .  facilitates the opportunity for success.  THEN (as you say) success should come, and that creates it's own form of additional stability.

 

BUT, first you need . . . . .

that has sod all to do with stability,more with (hopefully) the right people in the right jobs. if allardyce hasn't drastically improved on where we are now he will be gone by august 2009. the quest fro stability shouldn't mean keeping hold of possibly the wrong personnel

[manorpark]

 

 

“Chopping and changing managers here hasn’t worked and the success stories at other clubs are usually connected with longevity” added Mort.

 

 

 

I wish the idiot fans would just have some patience and read this quote over and over. More likely they'll forget it by next week and spout on about how Mort and Ashley want Sam out and that patience is something they both don't possess...............its depressing but what can you do?

the opposite is true, the stability comes from being succesful not the other way around.

 

Oh Dear . .

 

Stability (with the right people involved . . Ashley / Mort / Allardyce / Money on top players . .  facilitates the opportunity for success.  THEN (as you say) success should come, and that creates it's own form of additional stability.

 

BUT, first you need . . . . .

that has sod all to do with stability,more with (hopefully) the right people in the right jobs. if allardyce hasn't drastically improved on where we are now he will be gone by august 2009. the quest fro stability shouldn't mean keeping hold of possibly the wrong personnel

 

That is where successful (Ashley) and intelligent (Mort) people come in.

 

They make the judgement call about 'personnel'. They appear to have made it already . .