Montey Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 My prediction is a formation that plays more like 9-0-1 and a score line in the order of 3-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Given Beye Cacapa Taylor N'Zogbia Faye Smith Butt Milner Martins Duff Would be my guess. Three holding midfield players effectively. Mine too, on the ball anyway. If we are to have any chance they need to play the ball on the floor. With that trio in central midfield, we will be utterly incapable of playing the ball on the floor. It's unfathomable isn't it. We cannot, we just simply CANNOT play long high balls if Martins is our lone striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 One thing's for sure, Grant is obviously supremely confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I just can't see the merit in changing the personnel and setup so drastically from game to game, it really confuses me. It's been a pretty busy period so maybe it was to keep the team relatively fresh. Then again, the team that played away to Wigan was so pathetic that the team needed a bit of a shakeup too. Both fair points, but it's hardly going to help the team gel is it? Fully expect them to run around like they've never met each other again today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 The wings are the key to this team. Faye and Butt will be destroying, and our wings are Beye/Milner and Zog/Duff. Hilario is shit, so if Smith gets forward to challenge for crosses we could cause trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Given Beye Cacapa Taylor N'Zogbia Faye Smith Butt Milner Martins Duff Would be my guess. Three holding midfield players effectively. Mine too, on the ball anyway. If we are to have any chance they need to play the ball on the floor. With that trio in central midfield, we will be utterly incapable of playing the ball on the floor. Faye will make us a bit better, simply because he is so strong on the ball and isn't afraid to lose it and so he doesn't rush into the first available long ball. It won't be perfect but it will be better than it has been recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Given Beye Cacapa Taylor N'Zogbia Faye Smith Butt Milner Martins Duff Would be my guess. Three holding midfield players effectively. Mine too, on the ball anyway. If we are to have any chance they need to play the ball on the floor. With that trio in central midfield, we will be utterly incapable of playing the ball on the floor. It's unfathomable isn't it. We cannot, we just simply CANNOT play long high balls if Martins is our lone striker. Surely its simple. Get it low and fast as possible to the wingers, fullbacks overlap, smith joins the attack, goal!! In reality its Hoof it to martins and errr yeh that'll do.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 You're suggesting Smith poses some form of an attacking threat, Mowen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 You're suggesting Smith poses some form of an attacking threat, Mowen? to draw away the markers yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 if we were any good, this would probs be the best chance to beat Chelsea in there 70odd game unbeaten at home run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 You're suggesting Smith poses some form of an attacking threat, Mowen? He might scare Hilario into dropping it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I just can't see the merit in changing the personnel and setup so drastically from game to game, it really confuses me. It's been a pretty busy period so maybe it was to keep the team relatively fresh. Then again, the team that played away to Wigan was so pathetic that the team needed a bit of a shakeup too. Both fair points, but it's hardly going to help the team gel is it? You surely can't be suggesting that we play the same personnel / formation as away to Wigan just to give some consistency though? If they play that dire we need to make changes. If we don't change things then nothing will change. I think the problem is the formation though, and a 4-5-1 is not going to be productive. Ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Match Trailer (With Nice Music) snip Laters! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bobblyrage Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Faye and Smith will end up so deep that they effectively are centre halves. Cant see us leaving our own half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I have to say though, even though Martins is up front on his own, I still think he prefers this to playing out wide. He should therefore be more effective or at least more of a threat. He essentially played upfront alone all last season, with either Sibierski or Dyer just off him and he did alright as far as scoring goals goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I just can't see the merit in changing the personnel and setup so drastically from game to game, it really confuses me. It's been a pretty busy period so maybe it was to keep the team relatively fresh. Then again, the team that played away to Wigan was so pathetic that the team needed a bit of a shakeup too. Both fair points, but it's hardly going to help the team gel is it? You surely can't be suggesting that we play the same personnel / formation as away to Wigan just to give some consistency though? If they play that dire we need to make changes. If we don't change things then nothing will change. I think the problem is the formation though, and a 4-5-1 is not going to be productive. Ever. Looks like we're trying something we've not tried before this season, and with players in positions they've not played in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Given Beye Cacapa Taylor N'Zogbia Faye Smith Butt Milner Martins Duff Would be my guess. Three holding midfield players effectively. Mine too, on the ball anyway. If we are to have any chance they need to play the ball on the floor. With that trio in central midfield, we will be utterly incapable of playing the ball on the floor. Faye will make us a bit better, simply because he is so strong on the ball and isn't afraid to lose it and so he doesn't rush into the first available long ball. It won't be perfect but it will be better than it has been recently. Whether he's afraid of it or not, he'll still lose it constantly. Chelsea press very well when they don't have the ball, so to have success against them you need to have either players in midfield who are good at quick, one-touch passing football. We don't. Alternatively you need a target man who you can play direct balls to and have him link the play with players coming from deep. We have Martins up front on his own... I'd have played Smith up front personally, hope we do. Maybe Martins on the right, Duff on the left and Milner in midfield looking to get forward while Butt and Faye hold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 "Players getting physced up, a few team talks going on....Alan Smith wandering around alone fiddling with his armband" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I just can't see the merit in changing the personnel and setup so drastically from game to game, it really confuses me. It's been a pretty busy period so maybe it was to keep the team relatively fresh. Then again, the team that played away to Wigan was so pathetic that the team needed a bit of a shakeup too. Both fair points, but it's hardly going to help the team gel is it? You surely can't be suggesting that we play the same personnel / formation as away to Wigan just to give some consistency though? If they play that dire we need to make changes. If we don't change things then nothing will change. I think the problem is the formation though, and a 4-5-1 is not going to be productive. Ever. Looks like we're trying something we've not tried before this season, and with players in positions they've not played in. Well nothing we've tried so far this season has worked, so why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Milner on the right? It will never work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Milner on the right? It will never work. Square pegs in round holes.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 "Players getting physced up, a few team talks going on....Alan Smith wandering around alone fiddling with his armband" Classic What leadership qualities! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 It'll be Duff right/Milner left. Sam really would be going against his principles otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Well nothing we've tried so far this season has worked, so why not? Touché. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Radio Newcastle on Faye being in at DMC - "I suppose it gives Nicky Butt a freer (sic) role as well" Nicky Butt in a free role? Are we that desperate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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