oldtype Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 ok, last time I made a thread like this it was titled "Titus Bramble," so take this with a grain, nay, a pound of salt but... Last season, Carr hardly deserved to be called a footballer. He was overweight, out of shape, slow as f***, and his defensive skills weren't all that hot to begin with. He was completely useless and a liability to the club. He seems to be the one man who has seriously benefited from Big Sams new(or is it "old" now?) fitness regime. He's definitely back in shape and seems to have gotten a bit of his pace back. He's been shaky at the back at times but he's become capable of making those bombing runs that he used to do at Tottenham pre-knee injury again. Now I'm hardly saying that he's suddenly a top-class or even an above-average premiership right back, but I think we just might be able to stop thinking about him as dead weight but rather as decent cover for Beye. Probably another 1~2 years from him at most(when's his contract up) but I think he can be a squad asset to us now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Did well tonight. 1 sunny day doesn't make a summer though, and I would class his Man Utd performance as "cloudy" See how it goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Yea I have to agree based on last nights performance, nothing amazing but was solid enough and made some good overlaps with milner. Decent cover, not the best defender but decent cover for beye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Shall i make this easy for you? He's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 One look at his injury record says it all. Plus the size of his head. If only we could get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Chimbonda will be in over the next couple of weeks anyway. Carr will be flogged in the summer. Then after we shall sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Chimbonda will be in over the next couple of weeks anyway. Carr will be flogged in the summer. Then after we shall sell him. ...Are you our Martin Jol then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 god no, im about as connected as much as Martin Jol is living out of his mothers basement. Just lazy speculation, wants a move, would fit in with KK style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 don't think we need Chimbonda tbh. Beye is just fine at right back and he's a complete tosser that would probably demand massive wages because he has it in his mind that he's one of the best right backs in Europe (to be fair, he might not be wrong.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 He is poo poo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Agreed, I could still see us moving for him though. Depends how much KK will rate Carr, who knows he might even be able to motivate him for the first time in his NUFC career. We will need a backup for Beye sooner or later though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think Geremi+Taylor+Carr all being able to play in the position will be good enough backup for now, since Beye isn't really the injury-prone type. He's already 30 though, so should look at getting a promising young right back in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Beye is 30? ah fuck was hoping for a good few years out of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 My bad, he is older than I thought. Young RB will be called for before too long then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesD Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 he looks in great shape though. could see him playing for quite a few more years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I have always supported him even though I know he doesnt play well most of the time.He is not a great player but he is sure reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I have always supported him even though I know he doesnt play well most of the time.He is not a great player but he is sure reliable. Are you talking about Carr or Beye here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I have always supported him even though I know he doesnt play well most of the time.He is not a great player but he is sure reliable. Are you talking about Carr or Beye here? Stephen Carr.Beye is just class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Wouldnt you say if he doesnt play well most of the time he is pretty unreliable? I used to think all Carr need was motivation. Im not suprised he never lived up to the hype here, despite the injuries he never had any competition, like Babayaro when you know your walking into the team every week you lose desire whether you like it or not. As per usual Carr has been injured, so hasnt had the chance to compete with Beye, if he stays fit, competition and maybe Keegan motivating him maybe he could learn to live again. But I think its way to late, although his pace the last couple of games has suprised me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I never thought he was -that- bad anyway. Yes, I'm prepared to get mauled for saying this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksammy Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I never thought he was -that- bad anyway. Yes, I'm prepared to get mauled for saying this. of the same opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ajcrawford21 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 stephen carr = horrible player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Think when he's played in the last year or so, he hasn't actually been that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chizzletooth Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think Carr has never been much worse than average. I think he's become a hate figure because of his surly demeanor. He's made himself an easy scapegoat for our defensive woes over the years with his fitness/attitude but theres no way he cost us more goals than Boumsong/Bramble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 He's slow and he resorts to pulling players shirts. That said Geremi, Car maybe Edgar too and Taylor can all deputise for Beye at RB so we are not desperate right now but should be on the look out for a young up and coming kid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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