SUPERTOON Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Anyone else expecting Pompey to struggle next season surely more expectations from there fans and plus the demands of europe and the fact that they are not as good as people are making out Can anyone translate this? I think they will struggle quite simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Seemed pretty clear to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 A small team like Portsmouth can only go so far given their location and small fanbase. I can't see them progressing further than where they are now, not when there are bigger clubs out there to challenge them with more financial clout like us, Villa, Spurs, Man City and so on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaetihS Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 lol we are a very deluded bunch aren't we. We haven't finished in the top 6 for some years and haven't done it back-to-back since about 2003/4. Finished in the lower half of the league more often than not in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years we've been through about 5 managers. Portsmouth have been doing well in the league for about 3 years now. Won the FA Cup are in Europe. Spurs have been getting stronger and stronger for the same time we've been on the decline minus last year. They kept conceding goals last season and went some way to curb that by bringing in 2 good quality defenders. They have a young team and keep adding to it and a manager who is respected and known throughout Europe. Also in Europe this season. Exactly. Good to hear more and more fans are as realistic as me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 they aren't too clever when teams sit back and they are asked to break teams down. Campbell in particular isn't too fond of holding a high defensive line either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 lol we are a very deluded bunch aren't we. We haven't finished in the top 6 for some years and haven't done it back-to-back since about 2003/4. Finished in the lower half of the league more often than not in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years we've been through about 5 managers. Portsmouth have been doing well in the league for about 3 years now. Won the FA Cup are in Europe. Spurs have been getting stronger and stronger for the same time we've been on the decline minus last year. They kept conceding goals last season and went some way to curb that by bringing in 2 good quality defenders. They have a young team and keep adding to it and a manager who is respected and known throughout Europe. Also in Europe this season. Exactly. Good to hear more and more fans are as realistic as me. Bet you're a blast in the pub before the match. Well if you'd ever been like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Watchu talkin' bout Wullie? He's the biggest supporter of the team I've ever encountered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 lol we are a very deluded bunch aren't we. We haven't finished in the top 6 for some years and haven't done it back-to-back since about 2003/4. Finished in the lower half of the league more often than not in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years we've been through about 5 managers. Portsmouth have been doing well in the league for about 3 years now. Won the FA Cup are in Europe. Spurs have been getting stronger and stronger for the same time we've been on the decline minus last year. They kept conceding goals last season and went some way to curb that by bringing in 2 good quality defenders. They have a young team and keep adding to it and a manager who is respected and known throughout Europe. Also in Europe this season. Exactly. Good to hear more and more fans are as realistic as me. Bet you're a blast in the pub before the match. Well if you'd ever been like. Oh he's been to plenty, at the stadium of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaetihS Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 lol we are a very deluded bunch aren't we. We haven't finished in the top 6 for some years and haven't done it back-to-back since about 2003/4. Finished in the lower half of the league more often than not in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years we've been through about 5 managers. Portsmouth have been doing well in the league for about 3 years now. Won the FA Cup are in Europe. Spurs have been getting stronger and stronger for the same time we've been on the decline minus last year. They kept conceding goals last season and went some way to curb that by bringing in 2 good quality defenders. They have a young team and keep adding to it and a manager who is respected and known throughout Europe. Also in Europe this season. Exactly. Good to hear more and more fans are as realistic as me. Bet you're a blast in the pub before the match. Well if you'd ever been like. Oh he's been to plenty, at the stadium of s****. typical. denial are we?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Most boring WUM I have come across which is quite an achievement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaetihS Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Most boring WUM I have come across which is quite an achievement. another one too many deluded ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I can see why Pompey are after him Campbell is getting old and with the added strain of Europe its gonna be hard problem is 2 into 3 just don't go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I can see why Pompey are after him Campbell is getting old and with the added strain of Europe its gonna be hard problem is 2 into 3 just don't go. Surely that's a contradiction? Unless you want them to sign players that aren't as good as the ones they already have and their fans go into a mass frenzy (Also known as the Diane effect) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrightstuff83 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Apologies if ive missed something, but was there ever a reason for why we're not still in for dunne? It just seems we were favs then the obligatory spurs link came in and that was it, we'd no chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I can see why Pompey are after him Campbell is getting old and with the added strain of Europe its gonna be hard problem is 2 into 3 just don't go. Surely that's a contradiction? Unless you want them to sign players that aren't as good as the ones they already have and their fans go into a mass frenzy (Also known as the Diane effect) Huh? You've lost me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I can see why Pompey are after him Campbell is getting old and with the added strain of Europe its gonna be hard problem is 2 into 3 just don't go. Surely that's a contradiction? Unless you want them to sign players that aren't as good as the ones they already have and their fans go into a mass frenzy (Also known as the Diane effect) Huh? You've lost me. You're saying 2 into 3 doesn't go but you're also saying they will have difficulties due to the added strain of Europe. The solution to that is to buy more players, as you alluded to, but short of them buying players worse than their current first 11 there's obviously going to be selection issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 lol we are a very deluded bunch aren't we. We haven't finished in the top 6 for some years and haven't done it back-to-back since about 2003/4. Finished in the lower half of the league more often than not in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years we've been through about 5 managers. Portsmouth have been doing well in the league for about 3 years now. Won the FA Cup are in Europe. Spurs have been getting stronger and stronger for the same time we've been on the decline minus last year. They kept conceding goals last season and went some way to curb that by bringing in 2 good quality defenders. They have a young team and keep adding to it and a manager who is respected and known throughout Europe. Also in Europe this season. Exactly. Good to hear more and more fans are as realistic as me. Bet you're a blast in the pub before the match. Well if you'd ever been like. Oh he's been to plenty, at the stadium of s****. typical. denial are we?? I'm certainly not denial no.. mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaetihS Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 lol we are a very deluded bunch aren't we. We haven't finished in the top 6 for some years and haven't done it back-to-back since about 2003/4. Finished in the lower half of the league more often than not in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years we've been through about 5 managers. Portsmouth have been doing well in the league for about 3 years now. Won the FA Cup are in Europe. Spurs have been getting stronger and stronger for the same time we've been on the decline minus last year. They kept conceding goals last season and went some way to curb that by bringing in 2 good quality defenders. They have a young team and keep adding to it and a manager who is respected and known throughout Europe. Also in Europe this season. Exactly. Good to hear more and more fans are as realistic as me. Bet you're a blast in the pub before the match. Well if you'd ever been like. Oh he's been to plenty, at the stadium of s****. typical. denial are we?? I'm certainly not denial no.. mackems.gif hope so for your sake from more disappointment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 lol we are a very deluded bunch aren't we. We haven't finished in the top 6 for some years and haven't done it back-to-back since about 2003/4. Finished in the lower half of the league more often than not in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years we've been through about 5 managers. Portsmouth have been doing well in the league for about 3 years now. Won the FA Cup are in Europe. Spurs have been getting stronger and stronger for the same time we've been on the decline minus last year. They kept conceding goals last season and went some way to curb that by bringing in 2 good quality defenders. They have a young team and keep adding to it and a manager who is respected and known throughout Europe. Also in Europe this season. Exactly. Good to hear more and more fans are as realistic as me. Bet you're a blast in the pub before the match. Well if you'd ever been like. Oh he's been to plenty, at the stadium of s****. typical. denial are we?? I'm certainly not denial no.. mackems.gif hope so for your sake from more disappointment When we go through a shit spell are you happy or sad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I can see why Pompey are after him Campbell is getting old and with the added strain of Europe its gonna be hard problem is 2 into 3 just don't go. Surely that's a contradiction? Unless you want them to sign players that aren't as good as the ones they already have and their fans go into a mass frenzy (Also known as the Diane effect) Huh? You've lost me. You're saying 2 into 3 doesn't go but you're also saying they will have difficulties due to the added strain of Europe. The solution to that is to buy more players, as you alluded to, but short of them buying players worse than their current first 11 there's obviously going to be selection issues. Ahh yes. But my point is 2 will be main stays one will be back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I want to see MaetihS against NE5. That would be quite something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaetihS Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 lol we are a very deluded bunch aren't we. We haven't finished in the top 6 for some years and haven't done it back-to-back since about 2003/4. Finished in the lower half of the league more often than not in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years we've been through about 5 managers. Portsmouth have been doing well in the league for about 3 years now. Won the FA Cup are in Europe. Spurs have been getting stronger and stronger for the same time we've been on the decline minus last year. They kept conceding goals last season and went some way to curb that by bringing in 2 good quality defenders. They have a young team and keep adding to it and a manager who is respected and known throughout Europe. Also in Europe this season. Exactly. Good to hear more and more fans are as realistic as me. Bet you're a blast in the pub before the match. Well if you'd ever been like. Oh he's been to plenty, at the stadium of s****. typical. denial are we?? I'm certainly not denial no.. mackems.gif hope so for your sake from more disappointment When we go through a s*** spell are you happy or sad? Of course i am down... you would not want to be near me after we lost a match or played crap. But these days i am much calmer after finally acknowledging and recognising the fact that my expectation of the team (we are a top 6 club at least and that we are famous n big club) is simply unrealistic. After seeing the crapness after the Sir Bobby days, I become more and more upset cos i know we have really fallen behind our previous lesser rivals like Everton, Pompey and Spurs. I am perhaps one of the few who predict days of mediorcity when players like Dyer, Bells, Robert left and the retirement of Shearer cos i know these are the best we can have. People rave abt the new coming ins like Duff but i got stick saying we will be in for a relegtion scrap this season but was called names for this view; I was more right. In any case, my upset turns to reasoning and finally acceptance that if i am not going to get disappointed i must face the truth. So i was delighted with our final position this season and performance in the last few games, even then, i am realistic of my expectation next season if no added quality players are made. Also, i was constantly upset by jokes from mates then, that i think my club is big and has a good squad. Finally, i understand our standing in the game has fallen and do not expect big names unless they are in twillight of their years whats more now, we are not spending due to wage cost pressures. As such, i face the truth that getting back into Europe and become more famous is at least 5-10 years away cos in simple terms, even if we add 3 or 4 good players this seasons, our rivals are likey to do the same to already superior squads than ours. We can of course do a Chelsea and buy big and pay big, signalling our ambition and thus attract more and better players but this is impossible under the buiness oriented Mike Ashley. So my expectations has changed to a more realistic one. I am given stick but just as irritated that these fans are deluded and asking for the impossible which will lead to disappointment and a hostile and unhappy crowd which thus lead to pressure on the squad. Would it not be better if we can create a vibrant and more suppotive crowd at St James if we lower our expectations or become more realistic? Would it not be that we wll be happy if we overahieve our realistic expectation and finish in the top 10 rather than moan and swear, creating a unpleasant environment for players and fans alike? I for one, do not expect any rising star/star signings but maybe a few unknowns who perhaps can surprise us, in fact i expect more departures to keep the wage bill down but hopefully that man is not Martins as i feel he is the only few top 6 quality player we have who also seem want to play for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Coloccini is pure quality and if I had to chose between him and Dunne...then I would take Coloccini...i think... Coloccini is pretty much depors defence and has been that for years. And yes, I have seen him plenty off times and he has never played bad once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I want to see MaetihS against NE5. That would be quite something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 lol we are a very deluded bunch aren't we. We haven't finished in the top 6 for some years and haven't done it back-to-back since about 2003/4. Finished in the lower half of the league more often than not in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years we've been through about 5 managers. Portsmouth have been doing well in the league for about 3 years now. Won the FA Cup are in Europe. Spurs have been getting stronger and stronger for the same time we've been on the decline minus last year. They kept conceding goals last season and went some way to curb that by bringing in 2 good quality defenders. They have a young team and keep adding to it and a manager who is respected and known throughout Europe. Also in Europe this season. Exactly. Good to hear more and more fans are as realistic as me. Bet you're a blast in the pub before the match. Well if you'd ever been like. Oh he's been to plenty, at the stadium of s****. typical. denial are we?? I'm certainly not denial no.. mackems.gif hope so for your sake from more disappointment When we go through a s*** spell are you happy or sad? Of course i am down... you would not want to be near me after we lost a match or played crap. But these days i am much calmer after finally acknowledging and recognising the fact that my expectation of the team (we are a top 6 club at least and that we are famous n big club) is simply unrealistic. After seeing the crapness after the Sir Bobby days, I become more and more upset cos i know we have really fallen behind our previous lesser rivals like Everton, Pompey and Spurs. I am perhaps one of the few who predict days of mediorcity when players like Dyer, Bells, Robert left and the retirement of Shearer cos i know these are the best we can have. People rave abt the new coming ins like Duff but i got stick saying we will be in for a relegtion scrap this season but was called names for this view; I was more right. In any case, my upset turns to reasoning and finally acceptance that if i am not going to get disappointed i must face the truth. So i was delighted with our final position this season and performance in the last few games, even then, i am realistic of my expectation next season if no added quality players are made. Also, i was constantly upset by jokes from mates then, that i think my club is big and has a good squad. Finally, i understand our standing in the game has fallen and do not expect big names unless they are in twillight of their years whats more now, we are not spending due to wage cost pressures. As such, i face the truth that getting back into Europe and become more famous is at least 5-10 years away cos in simple terms, even if we add 3 or 4 good players this seasons, our rivals are likey to do the same to already superior squads than ours. We can of course do a Chelsea and buy big and pay big, signalling our ambition and thus attract more and better players but this is impossible under the buiness oriented Mike Ashley. So my expectations has changed to a more realistic one. I am given stick but just as irritated that these fans are deluded and asking for the impossible which will lead to disappointment and a hostile and unhappy crowd which thus lead to pressure on the squad. Would it not be better if we can create a vibrant and more suppotive crowd at St James if we lower our expectations or become more realistic? Would it not be that we wll be happy if we overahieve our realistic expectation and finish in the top 10 rather than moan and swear, creating a unpleasant environment for players and fans alike? I for one, do not expect any rising star/star signings but maybe a few unknowns who perhaps can surprise us, in fact i expect more departures to keep the wage bill down but hopefully that man is not Martins as i feel he is the only few top 6 quality player we have who also seem want to play for us. So what do you think our overall potential is? Why dont you speak about our club in terms of its potential rather than its current standings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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