Ketsbaia Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 The way they are this close so far into the season just highlights how daft Wenger was not to strengthen properly. Exactly. Wonder if he has any regrets. But as long as he's still shipping in 16 year olds from Barcelona, everythings ok, yes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Ruffier is 24. Young for a goalkeeper I suppose ... City won't let them have Given, and Wenger is way too stubborn to spend more than £10m on a keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 It depends on Szczesny i want to see him making the team week in week out and i do think he is ready, it's difficult. Somebody like Reina for a season would be class and we could probably get back what we payed for him but that type of short-term attitude is not really Mr Wenger's way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Can't see Liverpool selling Reina to you, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Can't see Liverpool selling Reina to you, tbh. He supposedly has a minimum fee release clause. No idea what it's supposed to be or if Arsenal would even pay it mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Just dont completely buy into this supposed Goalkeeper and defence weakness that's costing Arsenal silverware, especially domestically, although i do think its a factor in the CL. Personally dont think Arsenal have been clinical enough infront of goal compared to previous seasons where they've challenged. In their pomp they always had an out an out goals scorer who'd bag 25-30 goals a season, but more importantly they'd have at least 3 or 4 other players who'd get you 15 goals a season as well. If you look at the players they have nowadays there is no out and out 25 goals striker as Persie is a permacrock and the supporting players just arent chipping as much as they should be. Obviously successful teams need a solid base, but the lack of 'critique' towards thier misfiring forward players highlights the fact that there seems to be a massive misconception that Arsenal are struggling mainly because of their goalkeeper and defence. It's becoming a bit of a cliche in my unbelievably well informed opinion and is simply not the answer to there problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Can't see Liverpool selling Reina to you, tbh. I think Dalgish has a "If you don't want to be here i don't care where you go" attitude tbh. Just dont completely buy into this supposed Goalkeeper and defence weakness that's costing Arsenal silverware, especially domestically, although i do think its a factor in the CL. Personally dont think Arsenal have been clinical enough infront of goal compared to previous seasons where they've challenged. In their pomp they always had an out an out goals scorer who'd bag 25-30 goals a season, but more importantly they'd have at least 3 or 4 other players who'd get you 15 goals a season as well. If you look at the players they have nowadays there is no out and out 25 goals striker as Persie is a permacrock and the supporting players just arent chipping as much as they should be. Obviously successful teams need a solid base, but the lack of 'critique' towards thier misfiring forward players highlights the fact that there seems to be a massive misconception that Arsenal are struggling mainly because of their goalkeeper and defence. It's becoming a bit of a cliche in my unbelievably well informed opinion and is simply not the answer to there problems. We have lacked a CB, when Squillaci has had to come in he's been pretty bad, but if we had Djourou-Vermaelen all season (no hope, everybody get's injuried) we'd have enough with Kos a more than Adequate cover, it's if we lose both Djourou and Vermaelen (like now) we're screwed. Szczesny WILL be the Arsenal goalkeeper for many years to come, it's just if he's ready right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Can't see Liverpool selling Reina to you, tbh. He supposedly has a minimum fee release clause. No idea what it's supposed to be or if Arsenal would even pay it mind. £24m? Wenger won't pay that. If Wenger spent some cash on a top keeper, some centre-backs that can actually defend and a few decent squad players Arsenal would be top of the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Can't see Liverpool selling Reina to you, tbh. I think Dalgish has a "If you don't want to be here i don't care where you go" attitude tbh. Just dont completely buy into this supposed Goalkeeper and defence weakness that's costing Arsenal silverware, especially domestically, although i do think its a factor in the CL. Personally dont think Arsenal have been clinical enough infront of goal compared to previous seasons where they've challenged. In their pomp they always had an out an out goals scorer who'd bag 25-30 goals a season, but more importantly they'd have at least 3 or 4 other players who'd get you 15 goals a season as well. If you look at the players they have nowadays there is no out and out 25 goals striker as Persie is a permacrock and the supporting players just arent chipping as much as they should be. Obviously successful teams need a solid base, but the lack of 'critique' towards thier misfiring forward players highlights the fact that there seems to be a massive misconception that Arsenal are struggling mainly because of their goalkeeper and defence. It's becoming a bit of a cliche in my unbelievably well informed opinion and is simply not the answer to there problems. We have lacked a CB, when Squillaci has had to come in he's been pretty bad, but if we had Djourou-Vermaelen all season (no hope, everybody get's injuried) we'd have enough with Kos a more than Adequate cover, it's if we lose both Djourou and Vermaelen (like now) we're screwed. Szczesny WILL be the Arsenal goalkeeper for many years to come, it's just if he's ready right now. I've always had a soft spot for Arsenal because of there attacking football and Wengers footballing philosophy. I always think that the best form of defence is attack, i know Arsenals winning teams in the past have been built on solid foundations wth the likes of Adams, Keown, Campbell and Toure being stalwarts in your title aspirations but I do think not enough is being made of your forward play. For me the last time Arsenal were a real force they had Pires, Ljungberg, Bergkamp, Henry even Wiltord. These were players who were all clincal in front of goal, its these players that havent been replaced in my opinion. Walcott/Arshavin/Fabregas/Van persie/Chamakh/Nasri/Bendtner they're all talented players but bwetween them you either have lack of contiuation due to injury or a distinct lack of "incisiveness" in front of goal. Or in some cases both. I genuinely think they'd benefit more from buying 2 or 3 players who were natural finishers than defenders and goalies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/real-to-decide-on-canales "Sergio Canales' future will be decided at the end of the season, with Liverpool keeping close tabs on him." f*** off Liverpool. Hate them more for every day tbh. Diego Perotti and Wolfswinkel also linked (again). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Fabregash how do you rate koscielny ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Fabregash how do you rate koscielny ? Awful player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 He should try and meet the release fee they Reina supposedly has in his contract. Should of went in for Given when they had the chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I don't think goalkeeper is really a problem for Arsenal, however you spell it seems a pretty decent young keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 He should try and meet the release fee they Reina supposedly has in his contract. Should of went in for Given when they had the chance. Apparently they made an offer but City weren't willing to sell him to a rival, might have been Bellamy who said that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I don't think goalkeeper is really a problem for Arsenal, however you spell it seems a pretty decent young keeper. Seriously? How many title winning sides do you see with a 20 year-old in goal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I don't think goalkeeper is really a problem for Arsenal, however you spell it seems a pretty decent young keeper. Seriously? How many title winning sides do you see with a 20 year-old in goal? Not many, but every team only has one keeper and Man Utd win the title most seasons. Arsenal might win the title this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Fabregash how do you rate koscielny ? He's utterly woeful, from what I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Well Szcezceszsceney or however you spell is his name is out for the next month, so they'll have Almunia or Lehmann in goal, who are 33 and 41 respectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Fabregash how do you rate koscielny ? He's not awful or woeful he's alright but he shouldn't be starting at the moment, Djourou has bailed him out a lot this season though and i do think he'll be a good steady player for us after Djourou and Vermaelen, i'd like to have another defender in though ahead of him and Squillaci out for Bartley next season. We are two players away imo, a strong second choice for Song and another CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 When Jens Lehmann last signed for Arsenal we went on a 47 game unbeaten run in the league. Clutching at straws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 When Jens Lehmann last signed for Arsenal we went on a 47 game unbeaten run in the league. Clutching at straws. Luckily for Manchester Utd you have no Henry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 It's funny how Lehmann and Almunia hate each other; should be interesting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I don't think goalkeeper is really a problem for Arsenal, however you spell it seems a pretty decent young keeper. Seriously? How many title winning sides do you see with a 20 year-old in goal? Not many, but every team only has one keeper and Man Utd win the title most seasons. Arsenal might win the title this year. Just off my head Casillas and Valdés both packed significant silverware in their early 20s. Can be done but chestnut seems still a wee bit green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Lehman's one of the best keepers I've seen in the PL. Still surprised Arsene let him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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